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    Default Did castration affect Ngok But Kwun less than it did Dung Fong But Bai?

    Dung Fong But Bai infamously became a she-male after castrating himself to train in the Qwai Fa Bo Deen. His speech, mode of dress, and behavior patterns became decidedly feminine after castration.

    My memories of SPW are fuzzy, but I remember that after Ngok But Kwun also castrated himself to train in the Qwai Fa Bo Deen, he didn't act nearly as feminine as Dung Fong But Bai had. I remember that his wife complained about his not being as attentive towards her as he once was, but other than that, he still behaved in his usual, pre-castration masculine manner. Nobody else seemed to really notice any change to him.

    Was this the case, and if so, why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Dung Fong But Bai infamously became a she-male after castrating himself to train in the Qwai Fa Bo Deen. His speech, mode of dress, and behavior patterns became decidedly feminine after castration.

    My memories of SPW are fuzzy, but I remember that after Ngok But Kwun also castrated himself to train in the Qwai Fa Bo Deen, he didn't act nearly as feminine as Dung Fong But Bai had. I remember that his wife complained about his not being as attentive towards her as he once was, but other than that, he still behaved in his usual, pre-castration masculine manner. Nobody else seemed to really notice any change to him.

    Was this the case, and if so, why?
    Well, you might have to consider the time that elapsed and how far/how much they practice their skill. I think he was starting to be more of a she-male. Perhaps DFBB could've already been a bit effeminate/not coming out of the closet prior to the castration.

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    YBQ began to lose his beard...i think.

    DFBB chose to not behave as a typical male by choice. there was also a longer period since his castration, so it would make sense for it to affect him more?

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    It wasn't overnight. YBQ's behavior and appearance was already starting to change. And judging by DFBB's description, it wasn't an overnight change for him later. He only found out down the line that he wasn't attracted to women and had the hots for that Yang fellow.

    So I would imagine that if YBQ learned for as long as DFBB, he would probably be similarly feminine.

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    He lost his beard and his voice was becoming high pitched (although he masked it by deliberately lowering his voice).

    The main difference is that YBQ likes to put up false appearances while DFBB is a more straightforward person. DFBB did not give a hoot about his image while YBQ had always been putting up a false front all his life.

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    Hahah I wonder what would happen if he turned gay? LOL and I actually wandered if Pingzhi would go gay on Lao Denuo haha..always fun to speculate. Would anyone of them go gay on LHC? (I remember DFBB going gay on LHC in the highly altered movie Swordsman II)

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    dong fang bu bai sort of went crazy, after he castrated himself, he became "Enlightened" according to his twisted mind, and tried to become a woman.

    Yue Bu Qun had a clear goal in mind, that is to become the leader of wulin, he had no intention of becoming gay or a woman.

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    YBQ's and LPZ both bacame more feminine in terms of the way they dressed. There were a number of times where it was mentioned that they were wearing something decidedly feminine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Dan~ View Post
    Would anyone of them go gay on LHC? (I remember DFBB going gay on LHC in the highly altered movie Swordsman II)
    In the novel, Dongfang Bubai thought Linghu Chong was too ugly for him.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    In the novel, Dongfang Bubai thought Linghu Chong was too ugly for him.
    In the movie, Dongfang Bubai was Brigitte Lin.
    明月心跳起來,又回頭,嫣然道,你還要不要我帶上那面具?
    傅紅雪冷道,現在你臉上豈非已經戴上了個面具?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bliss View Post
    In the movie, Dongfang Bubai was Brigitte Lin.
    In the novel, Linghu Chong was.... mediocre looking.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    In the novel, Linghu Chong was.... mediocre looking.
    In the movie, Jet Li also mediocre looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlantean0208 View Post
    In the movie, Jet Li also mediocre looking
    In real life, Persians are hot.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    In the novel, Dongfang Bubai thought Linghu Chong was too ugly for him.
    Too ugly? DFBB thinking that, hmmm interesting view from a transvestite AND a gay...to be calling someone too ugly. Anyways I guess Linghu Chong wasn't ugly enough, because he still managed to score with Yingying.

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