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    No Bluey for you until I get my Eddie!
    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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    You didn't like Eddie and Kathy in SOC? Why? I thought they were pretty cute together. It was an anniversary series? Really? I didn't know that! Usually anniversary series had a ton of stars and were long, but SOC was just about 24 episodes with only a few well known actors, right?
    Well TVB back then was in trouble. The old lot like the Five Tigers, Roger Kwok, Hugo Ng had all left TVB with most of the main female leads like Idy, Margie, Jamie, Sheren, Amys, etc. And it was before the time of the newer lot like Ekin, Leon, Aaron, Ada, Noel, Vivian, etc...

    In 1991, Eddie and Kathy were probably the best leads you could have. At least they got Liza Wang (which was an extreme rare appearance) and Law Kar Ying to guest star and after which they apparently got together for real. Don't forget Jimmy and Derek was also there but in small roles. The supporting stars were the best that TVB could offer at the time.

    TVB actually spent months researching the costumes and customs of the Tibetans and incorporating them into the plot. They also had to fly the whole cast over to Dun Huang (??) to film. And in terms of the plot, it was a once in a blue moon when TVB actually wrote a story where the Han Chinese were the cruel tradition-crushing invaders who oppressed the peace-loving Tibetans. When are we ever going to China as the bad guy in any series nowadays?

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    I never quite liked GSS 2 and 3 as much as I liked GSS 1. To this date, it is still my favorite fan fic story. In fact, you were my inspiration, the writer I looked up to. And you still are. Did you know I started my story after being so inspired by yours?
    don't know what to say
    Maybe just lucky I didn't write a porn story or else you would be tooo...

    On a serious note, thank you for your support and appreciation for GSS. I wrote it in the spur of the moment as a short story (during Yr 10 SWOT-Vac) and it seemed to work out great. But when it came to GSS 2 and GSS 3, I think I didn't think and plan enough ahead to have enough material and twists for a triology so even though it didn't turn out that bad (I hope), I know it could have been way better.

    I have to admit, I never planned for the child to live in GSS1 so the link in GSS 2 is a bit too forced and long-winding. GSS 3 was written as a link to GSS 4 which is still in my External HDD, but without out GSS 4 out to the public, GSS 3 seems uneccessary (I still can't believe I experimented on writing on subtle homosexuality ). I just got so bored writing GSS 4 which gave a final ending for the two swords that I stopped one third of the way through. I am not going to rewrite the whole thing cos I don't have time and I just focus on different themes now.

    I think that through the whole 5 years of the GSS saga, I have learnt that I produce a better result by planning ahead. That way, I know that I will have closed up plot holes and tied up loose ends to give a proper conclusion to the story. GGS was eaily influenced by stuff I was watching at the time, but because of brainstorming and a strong structure, "The Forbidden City - City of Disillusionment" is more original and expresses what I feel about certain issues (e.g. patriotism vs safety of loved ones) rather than what I felt after watched so and so.

    As I read along your "Legendary Book of Sun & Moon Swordplay", I can actually see you maturing in your writing and view of the world during these 8 (?? or 9) years. Your originality comes out as you move further along in the story and the characters and events show us the readers what your mind is thinking (esp in the last few chaps). It is comfortable and natural to read (and enjoy) rather than forced chain of events that are strung together but don't connect properly.

    That is what makes "Legendary Book of Sun & Moon Swordplay" different and stand out from other fan-fics I have read from a similar genre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!



    Well TVB back then was in trouble. The old lot like the Five Tigers, Roger Kwok, Hugo Ng had all left TVB with most of the main female leads like Idy, Margie, Jamie, Sheren, Amys, etc. And it was before the time of the newer lot like Ekin, Leon, Aaron, Ada, Noel, Vivian, etc...

    In 1991, Eddie and Kathy were probably the best leads you could have. At least they got Liza Wang (which was an extreme rare appearance) and Law Kar Ying to guest star and after which they apparently got together for real. Don't forget Jimmy and Derek was also there but in small roles. The supporting stars were the best that TVB could offer at the time.

    TVB actually spent months researching the costumes and customs of the Tibetans and incorporating them into the plot. They also had to fly the whole cast over to Dun Huang (??) to film. And in terms of the plot, it was a once in a blue moon when TVB actually wrote a story where the Han Chinese were the cruel tradition-crushing invaders who oppressed the peace-loving Tibetans. When are we ever going to China as the bad guy in any series nowadays?
    I thought people like Deric Wan and Leon Lai were with TVB in 1991? Wasn't Kathy Chow in a modern series with Leon Lai, Maggie Siu, and Deric Wan in the early 90s? I think it's called The Breaking Point.

    I have always liked Eddie Kwan. I think he's tall, hot, and has good acting skills. I have always wondered why TVB never really promoted him very much.

    SOC did have a few nice and reasonable Han people (like Eddie and his family), so at least the Han were somewhat redeemed. Perhaps the villain in the series was not necessarily the Han people but the corrupt Han government.

    But you're right that it's rare to see a series where the Chinese are the villains these days.



    don't know what to say
    No need to blush. You earned every word of my compliment.

    Maybe just lucky I didn't write a porn story or else you would be tooo...
    If your story were a porn story, I bet I could have written an even better porn story! Do you know that tweety thinks my latest chapter (chapter 84), which I consider quite provocative, is only rated G?

    On a serious note, thank you for your support and appreciation for GSS. I wrote it in the spur of the moment as a short story (during Yr 10 SWOT-Vac) and it seemed to work out great. But when it came to GSS 2 and GSS 3, I think I didn't think and plan enough ahead to have enough material and twists for a triology so even though it didn't turn out that bad (I hope), I know it could have been way better.

    I have to admit, I never planned for the child to live in GSS1 so the link in GSS 2 is a bit too forced and long-winding. GSS 3 was written as a link to GSS 4 which is still in my External HDD, but without out GSS 4 out to the public, GSS 3 seems uneccessary (I still can't believe I experimented on writing on subtle homosexuality ). I just got so bored writing GSS 4 which gave a final ending for the two swords that I stopped one third of the way through. I am not going to rewrite the whole thing cos I don't have time and I just focus on different themes now.

    I think that through the whole 5 years of the GSS saga, I have learnt that I produce a better result by planning ahead. That way, I know that I will have closed up plot holes and tied up loose ends to give a proper conclusion to the story. GGS was eaily influenced by stuff I was watching at the time, but because of brainstorming and a strong structure, "The Forbidden City - City of Disillusionment" is more original and expresses what I feel about certain issues (e.g. patriotism vs safety of loved ones) rather than what I felt after watched so and so.
    I never finished reading GSS 3, but I thought GSS 2 was pretty good. However, to me, it would never be as good as GSS 1 because I simply did not like the hero and heroine in GSS 2, whereas I loved the hero and heroine in GSS 1. I could not sympathize with the weak, wish-washy guy in GSS 2. The heroine in GSS 2 was also too pitiful for my liking.

    As I read along your "Legendary Book of Sun & Moon Swordplay", I can actually see you maturing in your writing and view of the world during these 8 (?? or 9) years. Your originality comes out as you move further along in the story and the characters and events show us the readers what your mind is thinking (esp in the last few chaps). It is comfortable and natural to read (and enjoy) rather than forced chain of events that are strung together but don't connect properly.

    That is what makes "Legendary Book of Sun & Moon Swordplay" different and stand out from other fan-fics I have read from a similar genre.
    I think it's my turn to blush. Thanks for your praise, although I truly suspect that it is just pure luck that readers find Legendary Book enjoyable. I also think many of my readers are too kind and polite to say anything too critical to me.

    Really? You can tell what I am thinking in my latest chapters? I thought I was only conveying my love for Wallace Chung in the latest chapters. Ok, seriously, care to tell me what you think I'm thinking in the latest chapters? I think your input would be very enlightening and helpful to my story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    I thought people like Deric Wan and Leon Lai were with TVB in 1991? Wasn't Kathy Chow in a modern series with Leon Lai, Maggie Siu, and Deric Wan in the early 90s? I think it's called The Breaking Point.
    That was made in 1992. People hated Deric after his superb performance Looking Back in Anger (1989) and aattcked him with high heels in the streets so he was not a good anniversary male lead then. He recreated himself in later comedies as the good guy. Leon was not yet promoted until 1992 with the Breaking Point. Speaking of which, I hated the Leon and Kathy pairing cos I prefered Deric who I thought Kathy was too cruel to. Canti also came out a lead around 1992 too though he was already doing small roles with TVB in 1989. I like Canti! (Hate Joe Ni )

    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    I have always liked Eddie Kwan. I think he's tall, hot, and has good acting skills. I have always wondered why TVB never really promoted him very much.
    I have always liked Eddie, but never really appreciated him as much i do today. He seems truly versatile in any role and a professional actor to take on the worst roles ever with the best he can. He is nice and friendly guy offscreen and his marriage is still going strong which is rare in the entertainment field!
    I think Eddie just had the worst of luck of going against the Five Tigers when he first started so he was stuck in jerk roles and then in his 30's he had to compete with the popular singer-turned actors like Aaron, Leon, Ekin, Julian etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    Really? You can tell what I am thinking in my latest chapters? I thought I was only conveying my love for Wallace Chung in the latest chapters. Ok, seriously, care to tell me what you think I'm thinking in the latest chapters? I think your input would be very enlightening and helpful to my story.
    Well, we can see that you have a bad streak in you. You like boys who don't follow rules and you probably question rigid/strict authority or regulations. You dislike damsels-in-distress and prefer your females to be able to protect themsleves yet will helplessly sink into the trap of love and your characters will probably will do silly things in the name of love. You probably believe that they are many faces to one person (like Black Rose) due to the ways of the world but your view of the world seems quite innocent and romantic. You place quite an emphasis on love and affection and obsession (?) which seems to take the central spotlight in your recent chapters. It is not just Wallce Chung but your general view of love and romance is quite strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    $this->handle_bbcode_img_match('http://www.cool-names.net/msn-emoticons-smiley/crackit.gif') Wallace Chung $this->handle_bbcode_img_match('http://www.cool-names.net/msn-emoticons-smiley/crackit.gif')
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    That was made in 1992. People hated Deric after his superb performance Looking Back in Anger (1989) and aattcked him with high heels in the streets so he was not a good anniversary male lead then. He recreated himself in later comedies as the good guy. Leon was not yet promoted until 1992 with the Breaking Point. Speaking of which, I hated the Leon and Kathy pairing cos I prefered Deric who I thought Kathy was too cruel to. Canti also came out a lead around 1992 too though he was already doing small roles with TVB in 1989. I like Canti! (Hate Joe Ni)
    You're kidding, right? Law-abiding citizens actually attacked poor Deric for doing his job well as the villain??? Was the poor man injured? What was his response to the attacks??? What was TVB's response??? I used to love Deric Wan, even more than Leon Lai! Deric was one of those actors who could tackle any role given to him, whether good, nasty, evil, or funny. Plus, Deric was very handsome in his own right. Leon Lai, on the other hand, was a block of wood. His good looks and his Canto-pop idol status saved him. I thought Deric Wan was awesome as the triad leader's cool son in Blood of Good and Evil. Did that come before or after the attacks with high heels?

    I also preferred Deric over Leon in The Breaking Point! I rooted and rooted for Deric and wished Kathy would just wake her silly self up and realize that Deric was the more exciting and better man to be with. She was indeed too cruel toward Deric. She just dumped him like that, and he did nothing wrong! Even after the dumping, he kept trying to get back into her good graces. I still remember one scene, where he deliberately drove by her work place, hoping to be able to pick her up from work. What are Deric and Leon doing nowadays? I know Kathy's back with TVB...

    Yea, I like Canti, but I never thought he was that hot. Who's Joe Ni?



    I have always liked Eddie, but never really appreciated him as much i do today. He seems truly versatile in any role and a professional actor to take on the worst roles ever with the best he can. He is nice and friendly guy offscreen and his marriage is still going strong which is rare in the entertainment field!
    I think Eddie just had the worst of luck of going against the Five Tigers when he first started so he was stuck in jerk roles and then in his 30's he had to compete with the popular singer-turned actors like Aaron, Leon, Ekin, Julian etc.
    I remember that Eddie was almost always the villain, but he was so tall and handsome! The first time he was the hero was in Gods and Demons of Zu Mountain. However, his curly wig ruined everything!!! I hate this curly hair trend for the men in wuxia! Which idiot came up the curly hair idea, anyway?



    Well, we can see that you have a bad streak in you. You like boys who don't follow rules and you probably question rigid/strict authority or regulations. You dislike damsels-in-distress and prefer your females to be able to protect themsleves yet will helplessly sink into the trap of love and your characters will probably will do silly things in the name of love. You probably believe that they are many faces to one person (like Black Rose) due to the ways of the world but your view of the world seems quite innocent and romantic. You place quite an emphasis on love and affection and obsession (?) which seems to take the central spotlight in your recent chapters. It is not just Wallce Chung but your general view of love and romance is quite strong.
    I'm going to shift this discussion over to the Legendary Book of Sun-Moon Swordplay thread so that I don't clutter your thread with talk about my story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
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    I'm going to start spamming your precious story thread with bare-chested pics of Wallace Chung if you don't put down your guns!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    I'm going to start spamming your precious story thread with bare-chested pics of Wallace Chung if you don't put down your guns!
    Fine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    You're kidding, right? Law-abiding citizens actually attacked poor Deric for doing his job well as the villain??? Was the poor man injured? What was his response to the attacks??? What was TVB's response??? I used to love Deric Wan, even more than Leon Lai! Deric was one of those actors who could tackle any role given to him, whether good, nasty, evil, or funny. Plus, Deric was very handsome in his own right. Leon Lai, on the other hand, was a block of wood. His good looks and his Canto-pop idol status saved him. I thought Deric Wan was awesome as the triad leader's cool son in Blood of Good and Evil. Did that come before or after the attacks with high heels?
    Oh I still hate Leon even today! His singing is still bad, can't dance and breathless and his acting is still boring. Only my mum likes him. I only watched movies with him in it as long as there are only people I like in it. The high-heel incident was before "The Blood of Good And Evil" and Deric was not hurt physically but his public image was rumoured. Leon is going to be Liu Bang in an upcoming 2011 movie "White Vengeance"!

    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    I also preferred Deric over Leon in The Breaking Point! I rooted and rooted for Deric and wished Kathy would just wake her silly self up and realize that Deric was the more exciting and better man to be with. She was indeed too cruel toward Deric. She just dumped him like that, and he did nothing wrong! Even after the dumping, he kept trying to get back into her good graces. I still remember one scene, where he deliberately drove by her work place, hoping to be able to pick her up from work. What are Deric and Leon doing nowadays? I know Kathy's back with TVB...
    Kathy was a bimbo in The Breaking Point. She already knew she was love with Leon, why start with Deric? And if you are in love with another dude, then why agree to a marriage proposal and then to dump the guy on engagement night in front of all his peers? It was like they just dated, they had sex and were planning marriage. I thought Kathy was playing him all along. I like Angela who played Deric's suffering wife but too bad he was too obsessed with Kathy to realise that Angela is the one truly worthy of him. Deric is doing series in China. HK doesn't like him anymore because of his wayward lovelife.

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    Yea, I like Canti, but I never thought he was that hot. Who's Joe Ni?
    I don't think Canti is hot but he is very likeable. Joe Ni or Joe Ngai is Vivian Chow's husband (remember the naked pics with the cat?). Back in the early nineties when Canti was just becoming popular, he starred in this series with Vivian Chow who was dating Joe at the time. So in promotion of the series, a reporter askes Canti whether he likes to date girls like Viv? The obvious answer is yes and that is how the whole problem began.

    Joe got jealous and started badmouthing Canti everywhere. You have to know that Joe was part owner of the popular "Yes" magazine back then and son of the influential author Ni Kuang (author of Six-Fingered Lyre Demon and Wisely novels, ghost writer for TLBB when JY was grieveing for his dead son). So what he said or wrote had a large impact o the public and people started to believe that Canti was a pervert on set and frequented propstitues without paying and etc... So Canti's public image was dashed and TVB fired him. He went to Taiwan and Mainland China to work and is now doing dad roles in China. He recently got married and has a kid. So Joe Ni for ruining Canti's career!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    I'm going to start spamming your precious story thread with bare-chested pics of Wallace Chung if you don't put down your guns!
    No one comes here anyway so i would enjoy the attention!
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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    Oh I still hate Leon even today! His singing is still bad, can't dance and breathless and his acting is still boring. Only my mum likes him. I only watched movies with him in it as long as there are only people I like in it. The high-heel incident was before "The Blood of Good And Evil" and Deric was not hurt physically but his public image was rumoured. Leon is going to be Liu Bang in an upcoming 2011 movie "White Vengeance"!
    Leon Lai is still acting? Sheesh, he can't act. Don't misunderstand me. I think he's handsome, but he can't act. He was an ok singer. How old is he now?

    Then Blood of Good and Evil must have redeemed Deric. It had to! It was one of my favorite series. Kudos to Deric for doing his job so well that he was attacked in the streets! What kind of roles is Deric playing now? Are his series good? What is this about his wayward love life? (I'm almost afraid to ask...)



    Kathy was a bimbo in The Breaking Point. She already knew she was love with Leon, why start with Deric? And if you are in love with another dude, then why agree to a marriage proposal and then to dump the guy on engagement night in front of all his peers? It was like they just dated, they had sex and were planning marriage. I thought Kathy was playing him all along. I like Angela who played Deric's suffering wife but too bad he was too obsessed with Kathy to realise that Angela is the one truly worthy of him. Deric is doing series in China. HK doesn't like him anymore because of his wayward lovelife.
    My mom hated Kathy in that series. She felt exactly the way you felt; Kathy's character was an insensitive bimbo. I almost felt that Deric's character's evil deeds were justified, given the injustice done to him.

    Angela's character sort of annoyed me. She knew very well that Deric's character did not love her and was using her for substitute sex while he was drunk and depressed from being stood up by Kathy's character. So why couldn't she conjure up some respect for herself and leave rather than be used like a prostitute?



    I don't think Canti is hot but he is very likeable. Joe Ni or Joe Ngai is Vivian Chow's husband (remember the naked pics with the cat?). Back in the early nineties when Canti was just becoming popular, he starred in this series with Vivian Chow who was dating Joe at the time. So in promotion of the series, a reporter askes Canti whether he likes to date girls like Viv? The obvious answer is yes and that is how the whole problem began.

    Joe got jealous and started badmouthing Canti everywhere. You have to know that Joe was part owner of the popular "Yes" magazine back then and son of the influential author Ni Kuang (author of Six-Fingered Lyre Demon and Wisely novels, ghost writer for TLBB when JY was grieveing for his dead son). So what he said or wrote had a large impact o the public and people started to believe that Canti was a pervert on set and frequented propstitues without paying and etc... So Canti's public image was dashed and TVB fired him. He went to Taiwan and Mainland China to work and is now doing dad roles in China. He recently got married and has a kid. So Joe Ni for ruining Canti's career!
    Ok, first of all... Whoa, TLBB had a ghost writer? And whoa! Vivian dated the son of an influential novel writer?

    What naked picture with the cats?

    I've always liked Vivian Chow, but it sounds like she has bad taste in men. How did she react to Joe's insane jealousy?

    What is she doing now? What's Joe Ni doing now? Do they have any kids?

    Poor Canti! Of course, he has to be diplomatic and answer yes to the question of whether he likes girls like Vivian Chow! He can't very well say he thinks girls like Viv are horrible and he would never be interested in girls like her!

    What was the series that Canti starred in with Vivian? Was it good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    The following is deliberate spamming of charbydis' thread because she dares to make funny faces at Wallace Chung. Take that, charbydis!

    Isn't Wallace Chung simply hot?
    No! Spam all you want! Since we are the only ones here, maybe I should stop updating my story and just make it a half-naked Wallace thread instead!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    Then Blood of Good and Evil must have redeemed Deric. It had to! It was one of my favorite series. Kudos to Deric for doing his job so well that he was attacked in the streets! What kind of roles is Deric playing now? Are his series good? What is this about his wayward love life? (I'm almost afraid to ask...)
    Deric;s roles now are so-so. Deric just has a lot of rumours with women and each time he breaks up, he fight with the women over money. Like he borrowed money from Sonjia Kwok while they were dating and he never returned the loan. (I think he did recently). Not a good image of a man fighting a woman over money.

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    My mom hated Kathy in that series. She felt exactly the way you felt; Kathy's character was an insensitive bimbo. I almost felt that Deric's character's evil deeds were justified, given the injustice done to him.

    Angela's character sort of annoyed me. She knew very well that Deric's character did not love her and was using her for substitute sex while he was drunk and depressed from being stood up by Kathy's character. So why couldn't she conjure up some respect for herself and leave rather than be used like a prostitute?
    I thought Angela should have been stronger and should have just kicked Deric in the nuts and chuck divorce papers in his face then walk out the door with all his money, but still, I like her better than Kathy. Maggie was a bit crazy in there so did not like her.

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    Ok, first of all... Whoa, TLBB had a ghost writer? And whoa! Vivian dated the son of an influential novel writer?
    Yeah! JY's son committed suicide in the middle of TLBB and JY had to take a break. Ni Kuang took over during the Ah Zi bit and JY finished up. Then he revised it to make it run smoother.

    Correction; Vivian is married to the son of an influential novel writer.

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    I've always liked Vivian Chow, but it sounds like she has bad taste in men. How did she react to Joe's insane jealousy? What naked picture with the cats?

    What is she doing now? What's Joe Ni doing now? Do they have any kids?
    Joe Ni is actually quite handsome bakc then IMO but not hot. But I never like pansies like him anyway. Actually, Viv was blinded by her love for Joe and ignored it like it never happened. Vivian was living in Canada with Joe for the past decade and has recently returned to do movies and open concert in HK. Joe is doing nothing at the moment. No kids cos Joe hates kids.

    The incident with the cat pics happened two years ago. Joe Ni was cheating on Vivian with some bimbo who posted naked pics of Joe holding a cat over his privates (poor kitty )! After like a month of silence and speculations that Viv dumped the jerk, the announcement came Joe loves Viv forever and that they got married!

    Viv must be brain damaged or something! But oh well, it is her choice so she has to put with the consequences. I personally would have set the dogs after him!

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    Poor Canti! Of course, he has to be diplomatic and answer yes to the question of whether he likes girls like Vivian Chow! He can't very well say he thinks girls like Viv are horrible and he would never be interested in girls like her!

    What was the series that Canti starred in with Vivian? Was it good?
    It was so-so. I never could enjoy it cos it reminded me of Canti's predicament. Can't remember the name.
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    Mel has made me hate all men (except Andy )! Going to torture or castrate all male characters in my fanfic!
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    Lau Gan can beat up Sit Chung Nam anytime!
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    Hmm...is Deric in a tight squeeze for money? If not, then how come there are rumors about him borrowing money from women he dates? It's such a pity that he has this rumor (whether true or not), which then gives him a bad name in TVB's eyes. He would have made TVB dramas so much more attractive to me. Lately, I have lost a lot of interest in TVB series. They are just not the way they used to be anymore... Bad plots, bad acting for the most part, no more wuxia dramas... TVB is deteriorating...

    I wanted Kathy to get back with Deric in The Breaking Point, not because I liked Kathy's character, but because I felt so bad for Deric's character from the way he was used as a substitute and then just dumped. It's weird; I should have felt more pity for Angela's character, but I just didn't. Somehow her character's weakness for a man who had absolutely no love or consideration for her just gave all women a bad reputation and made us look like desperate fools, and I didn't like her for that.

    Joe Ni does not sound like a very nice person. Either Vivian is madly and blindly in love with him, or he must be filthy rich for her to overlook his very obvious character flaws. I would rather believe that she married him for his money rather than believe that she married him out of blind and misplaced love. Because if it is the latter reason, then it's just too scary to even think about what love can do to an intelligent person...

    Hmm, Andy is ok, but I prefer Wallace Chung (especially bare-chested and oh-so-sexy). I have never been shy about admitting that I like good-looking men, especially those with well-toned bodies. Andy is handsome and well-toned, too, but I'm just not feeling it with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    Mel has made me hate all men (except Andy )! Going to torture or castrate all male characters in my fanfic!
    Hey, what did I do to make you hate all men?

    And Lau Gan is a eunuch. Sit Chung Nam is not, so he wins just by being more manly and hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    Hey, what did I do to make you hate all men?

    And Lau Gan is a eunuch. Sit Chung Nam is not, so he wins just by being more manly and hot.
    If you had been reading the story you would have known that Lau Gan is not an effeminate eunuch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    If you had been reading the story you would have known that Lau Gan is not an effeminate eunuch!
    Doesn't matter if Lau Gan is effeminate or not. He's not Wallace Chung, and only Wallace Chung is hot.

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