Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: How much time would it take for Zhang Sanfeng to master Qian Kun Da Nuo Yi?

  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    7

    Default How much time would it take for Zhang Sanfeng to master Qian Kun Da Nuo Yi?

    It took Zhang Wuji pretty much a couple of hours to master Qian Kun Da Nuo Yi. How much time would it take Zhang Sanfeng to master the same if he ever had that opportunity and why?

  2. #2
    Senior Member PJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Posts
    18,395

    Default

    It took Wuji 3 hours and 14 minutes. Zhang Sanfeng is exactly 1.07 times better than Wuji, so it would take Zhang Sanfeng 3 hours and 28 minutes.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    61

    Default

    Wouldn't it be 3 hours and 1 minute??

  4. #4
    Senior Member PJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Posts
    18,395

    Default

    Doh, you're right! My mistake.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Posts
    3,580

    Default

    You didn't factor in his meridians are slightly wider due to practicing Chongyang Wuji Gong which lets him train in internal arts 12% faster so the time should be even faster.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    438

    Default

    No, it would take Z3F 3 days.

    He would have to ponder about the underlying principles of QKDNY.

    Then he would take another 99 days and create his own version of Taiji Da Nuo Yi.

  7. #7
    Moderator Ken Cheng's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Posts
    23,319

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hyoyatika View Post
    No, it would take Z3F 3 days.

    He would have to ponder about the underlying principles of QKDNY.

    Then he would take another 99 days and create his own version of Taiji Da Nuo Yi.
    Cheung 3 Fung might be able to do it relatively quickly because the underlying principles of Keen Kwun Dai Loi Yee and Tai Chi share some similarities.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    895

    Default

    does ZSF's inner energy high enough to learn QKDNY faster?

  9. #9
    Moderator Ken Cheng's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Posts
    23,319

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by a_tumiwa View Post
    does ZSF's inner energy high enough to learn QKDNY faster?
    Should be...as it wasn't any weaker than Cheung Mo Gei's 9-Yeung power.

  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Posts
    121

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Cheung 3 Fung might be able to do it relatively quickly because the underlying principles of Keen Kwun Dai Loi Yee and Tai Chi share some similarities.
    I actually think it would be the opposite. His mastery of Taiji would make it very hard for him to adopt something similar but still different like QKDNY. This is similar to how multi-lingual people would have the most trouble with the similar sounds in languages as they tend to favor the pronunciation of their more "native" tongue. Eventually his bias would pull him back to Taiji. The best case scenario is for him to merge the 2 arts into one, which means he still wouldn't master QKDNY to the max like ZWJ would. In revert, we can see that even though learning Taiji takes ZWJ to another level in martial arts, and most would argue that Taji is deeper than QKDNY in philosophy, in the most critical moments, he still uses QKDNY.

    Another thing is at 100 years old, its really hard to learn new things. At that point, you just try to perfect what you already know. A 15 year old Zhang Junbao with some basics in 9Yang and learning QKDNY for the first time would be a different story.

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    574

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Should be...as it wasn't any weaker than Cheung Mo Gei's 9-Yeung power.
    I do wonder about that. Z3F's inner power was said to be incredibly pure and refined, whilst ZWJ's was described as like an endless torrent. ZWJ performed many feats of outrageous power (e.g. sword-fighting with a boulder, smashing people through walls, kicking trees down etc.) that I have a hard time picturing Z3F doing. Indeed, Z3F said that he never understood how mere human flesh could be trained to the point of doing such things. Z3F may have better quality inner power (i.e. maximum efficiency - just enough at the right time and place), but ZWJ may well have more in quantity instead (inefficient, showy, but overkill).

  12. #12
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    100

    Default

    How were other great's inner energies described? just wondering

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 98
    Last Post: 02-04-21, 05:21 PM
  2. Replies: 10
    Last Post: 03-17-11, 09:41 PM
  3. Qian Kun Da Nuo Yi
    By K2Grey in forum Wuxia Fiction
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 04-16-06, 06:19 AM
  4. Replies: 88
    Last Post: 04-10-06, 08:31 PM
  5. Dou Zuan Xing Yi and Qian Kun Da Nuo Yi
    By qiaofeng in forum Wuxia Fiction
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-13-04, 10:28 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •