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    Saw that HK actress Kathy Chow to be Miejue. Wow. Being ZZR once, now she took over her "teacher"'s role.

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    Yaaaaay! Another HSDS!

    My favorite story and I look forward to every production. Zhaomin for me is the defining role, so fingers-crossed although the actress is new that she brings more to the role than just cutes (I was looking at her previous roles and it seems like she was well-liked in Princess Wei Young- anyone have any feedback for the actress?)

    Other than that, I'm hoping they don't have just extras playing key supporting roles of the Ming Sect members, the Wudang 7 swordsmen and Zhaomin's family since these characters are juicy roles in their own right!

    Finally, I'm curious to see how the story gets reworked since most of the adaptations (even Tony Leung's one) diverged from the book. (This is a VERY good thing in at least one way- specifically the characterization of women... Jinyong infamously wrote in a note at the end of the novel that he liked Xiao Zhao essentially because the other women were too un-gentle but coudn't find a way to write it so that she and Wuji could get together. So I'm glad most of the stories also made the cunning, badass women of Yitiantulong ji cool! )

    Please keep up the posts and news here!

    PS Yes, Kathy Chow as Miejue is pretty nostalgia inducing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanfeng View Post
    Jinyong infamously wrote in a note at the end of the novel that he liked Xiao Zhao essentially because the other women were too un-gentle but coudn't find a way to write it so that she and Wuji could get together.
    PS Yes, Kathy Chow as Miejue is pretty nostalgia inducing!
    Yes, it will be great to let ZWJ and XZ to be together after all these years. Just like letting DY and MWQ to be so.
    Let's kick all the Persians back to their homeland.

    Maybe, they will interview Kathy Chow about her new role.

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    Thanks for the pics. Everyone looks nice. Looking forward to this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shakespeare View Post
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    I think she looks the part (literally).


    Quote Originally Posted by Shakespeare View Post
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    Another one who looks the part to me. Prince Guo Jun/Yunli from Zhen Huan Zhuan, right?


    Quote Originally Posted by Shakespeare View Post
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    First Ning Zhongze then Huang Rong and now, Granny Golden Flower. She must like Jin Yong's works.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shakespeare View Post
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    So Xu Zhu has reincarnated as Chen Kun 😅

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    Any picture of who is acting as ZZR and XZ?

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    I'm curious about XZ too.

    As for the former, here you go. The lady in the pants suit will be playing ZZR, I think.

    $this->handle_bbcode_img_match('https://i2.wp.com/www.jaynestars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/yukie-chen-joseph-zeng-joyce-jian.jpg?zoom=2&w=500')

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppies View Post
    I'm curious about XZ too.

    As for the former, here you go. The lady in the pants suit will be playing ZZR, I think.

    $this->handle_bbcode_img_match('https://i2.wp.com/www.jaynestars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/yukie-chen-joseph-zeng-joyce-jian.jpg?zoom=2&w=500')

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    ZM, ZWJ, ZZR?

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    Seems like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Yes, it will be great to let ZWJ and XZ to be together after all these years. Just like letting DY and MWQ to be so.
    Let's kick all the Persians back to their homeland.

    Maybe, they will interview Kathy Chow about her new role.
    HAha... I was saying that I was shocked that Jinyong didn't like ZM and ZZR because of how ambitious they were, when that's part of what I liked about them. So I actually like the scripts that made them more real, more fleshed-out characters. E.g., the Alec Su/Alyssia Chia and Lawrence Ng/Gigi Lai versions both focused some time on ZM and her family, her tribe, her underlings to show her side of the story as well.

    In terms of who Wuji ends up with, I've loved the ZWJ/ZM pairing in all the versions I've seen, but am open to another interpretation as long as ZM and other roles get solid characterization. (
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    Although if you read the Baidu entry, in this version ZWJ and ZM also get together at the end
    )

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    BTW in terms of actors/actresses here's the Baidu site, actress for XZ is not listed yet

    https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%80%...AE%B0/22075406

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanfeng View Post
    In terms of who Wuji ends up with, I've loved the ZWJ/ZM pairing in all the versions I've seen, but am open to another interpretation as long as ZM and other roles get solid characterization.
    I do not mind zwj/zm pairing. Over the years, I just find XZ to be pitiful and ZWJ to be useless.

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    ZWJ is very passive. Most characters plan/plot and act, while ZWJ mostly reacts to things happening to him rather than having things happen because of him. Having said that, it makes the conclusion a little more touching because it's the one big decision ZWJ took on his own rather than having had it forced onto him!

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    Correction I mentioned before that in based on Baidu in this version
    click to show/hide spoilers
    ZWJ ends up with ZM
    and that's essentially correct, however in Baidu they add that
    click to show/hide spoilers
    Atlhough ZWJ leaves his place in Ming sect with ZM, in his heart he still wants to rekindle his romance with ZZR, YL and XZ


    More Chinese-literates can correct my understanding, but yes, there you have it. They decided to be more true to the book here and have ZWJ be
    click to show/hide spoilers
    wishy-washy to the end.
    Alas!

    https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%80%...AE%B0/22075406

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanfeng View Post
    Correction I mentioned before that in based on Baidu in this version
    click to show/hide spoilers
    ZWJ ends up with ZM
    and that's essentially correct, however in Baidu they add that
    click to show/hide spoilers
    Atlhough ZWJ leaves his place in Ming sect with ZM, in his heart he still wants to rekindle his romance with ZZR, YL and XZ


    More Chinese-literates can correct my understanding, but yes, there you have it. They decided to be more true to the book here and have ZWJ be
    click to show/hide spoilers
    wishy-washy to the end.
    Alas!

    https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%80%...AE%B0/22075406
    Again? Maybe will give this series a miss this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Again? Maybe will give this series a miss this time.
    marry all 4 women?

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_tumiwa View Post
    marry all 4 women?
    Let JY decide.

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    Looks like this is the only one left to look forward to, now that Xiao Ao Jiang Hu is over. I do hope it won’t be a long wait.

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    I've seen some comments that JY novel adaptations are lower risk to produce ... as other theme like palace drama can get banned by their national TV broadcast license agency for "rewriting history in bad light"

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    Quote Originally Posted by krabs View Post
    I've seen some comments that JY novel adaptations are lower risk to produce ... as other theme like palace drama can get banned by their national TV broadcast license agency for "rewriting history in bad light"
    That’s good. Hopefully that means a shorter wait for us audience!

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    Is that why Legend of Ruyi is taking so long?

    Though perhaps there should be some sort of punishment too for adaptations that end up making a mess of JY’s stories haha.

    But then some JY is better than no JY.

    No more Xiao Ao Jiang Hu = withdrawal symptoms 😩

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