The Lams had the Pik Che Sword Technique; why did their personal skills suck so hard?

[Ken Cheng]

The Lam Family had the Pik Che Sword Technique as their family heirloom. One would expect them to be powerful, but they weren't. How is it that the family could be in possession of such a powerful skill, and yet their individual personal martial arts skills were so mediocre?

[Trien Chieu]

The Lam Family had the Pik Che Sword Technique as their family heirloom. One would expect them to be powerful, but they weren't. How is it that the family could be in possession of such a powerful skill, and yet their individual personal martial arts skills were so mediocre?

The Pik Che Sword Technique is very ordinary which is worse than the swordplay of an low end sect. The power of Pik Che is the internal energy of sunflower which give the practitioner the super speed. In order to have that internal energy the practitioner is required to castrate himself. Other than LYT, all the Lam family members learn the moves without the internal energy. I guess you can blame it all on LYT for not preparing for his descendants. LYT has great knowledge about martial art. Perhaps he should teach them those martial arts other than Pik Che Sword Technique.

[Doc Kwok]

The Lam Family had the Pik Che Sword Technique as their family heirloom. One would expect them to be powerful, but they weren't. How is it that the family could be in possession of such a powerful skill, and yet their individual personal martial arts skills were so mediocre?

There was a family rule prohibiting them from looking at it, and being filial descendants, they didn't. It isn't even certain whether they knew it had anything to do with their family's martial arts.

Without the inner power base developed via castration leading to extreme speed, the sword art was ineffective. It was never made clear why this should be though - the strokes were described as being very complicated, and when employed by the fully-trained up Lin Pingzhi were judged by Linghu Chong to be 'sophisticated to the extreme'. Maybe it was just overly complex, and so at a normal speed was just too impractical to be used effectively in a real duel, but super-speed would make the impractical practical?

[Stance]

There was a family rule prohibiting them from looking at it, and being filial descendants, they didn't. It isn't even certain whether they knew it had anything to do with their family's martial arts.

Without the inner power base developed via castration leading to extreme speed, the sword art was ineffective. It was never made clear why this should be though - the strokes were described as being very complicated, and when employed by the fully-trained up Lin Pingzhi were judged by Linghu Chong to be 'sophisticated to the extreme'. Maybe it was just overly complex, and so at a normal speed was just too impractical to be used effectively in a real duel, but super-speed would make the impractical practical?

I thought it wasn't full steam all the time and at certain points in the swordplay, it would speed up and catch the opponent by surprise?

[CC]

Without the inner power base developed via castration leading to extreme speed, the sword art was ineffective. It was never made clear why this should be though - the strokes were described as being very complicated, and when employed by the fully-trained up Lin Pingzhi were judged by Linghu Chong to be 'sophisticated to the extreme'. Maybe it was just overly complex, and so at a normal speed was just too impractical to be used effectively in a real duel, but super-speed would make the impractical practical?

1. Given that this BXJF exists in the same novel as DG9J, I dont think we can use logic and inter-spatial reasoning to sort this one out.

If I HAD to, I would reason that it was say impractical because the moves called for you to do something like, "feint at his face, block his sword towards his left and run round to his right before stabbing him in the back where he is defenceless' , basically requiring too many movements to complete if you dont have super speed. But, then if you had super speed, you dont need to waste time executing a 9 part move when you can just do a straight thrust into his face before he can block. So back to point 1.

[Doc Kwok]

If I HAD to, I would reason that it was say impractical because the moves called for you to do something like, "feint at his face, block his sword towards his left and run round to his right before stabbing him in the back where he is defenceless' , basically requiring too many movements to complete if you dont have super speed.

他辟邪劍法的招式，餘滄海早已詳加鑽研，盡數瞭然於胸，可是這些並無多大奇處的招式之中，突然間會多了若干 奇妙之極的變化，更以猶如雷轟電閃般的手法使出...

The techniques of his Bixie swordplay, Yu Canghai had researched long ago and understood them completely, but in the midst of these not too extraordinary techniques, there were suddenly appeared some extraordinary to the extreme variations, furthermore delivered with lightning-like speed...

It seems that the true Bixie swordplay had more sophisticated techniques compared to the one that was passed down, and the phrasing implies that this was independent of the lightning speed. But why were these not passed down? Because they were unusable without the speed (i.e. the 'run around and stab him in the back' part of your example)? The novel never makes it clear.

But, then if you had super speed, you dont need to waste time executing a 9 part move when you can just do a straight thrust into his face before he can block. So back to point 1.

Makes me think of One-Punch Man, were Saitama ends all his fights with one plain punch, which works because he is so overpowered that there was no need for any fancy technique.

It does make me believe that Lin Yuantu was probably at a lower-level than Feng Qingyang at his peak, because instead of disregarding the old fancy set moves to take advantage of his speed, he seems to have doubled down on them instead. This was the fatal flaw of BXJF that was exploited by LHC when fighting YBQ.

[Trien Chieu]

It does make me believe that Lin Yuantu was probably at a lower-level than Feng Qingyang at his peak, because instead of disregarding the old fancy set moves to take advantage of his speed, he seems to have doubled down on them instead. This was the fatal flaw of BXJF that was exploited by LHC when fighting YBQ.

LYT is said to be undefeated at his time. Beside Bixie, he knows lot of Shaolin martial arts as well. LYT's bixie should be at around DFBB level. Don't put him at a level of YBQ or LPZ. I don't think he is a level lower than Feng Qingyang.

[Doc Kwok]

LYT is said to be undefeated at his time. Beside Bixie, he knows lot of Shaolin martial arts as well. LYT's bixie should be at around DFBB level. Don't put him at a level of YBQ or LPZ. I don't think he is a level lower than Feng Qingyang.

當年林遠圖以七十二路辟邪劍法開創鏢局，當真是打遍黑道無敵手。其時白道上英雄見他太過威風，也有去找他比 試武藝的...

That year Lin Yuantu used his 72 strokes Bixie swordplay to start the Fuwei escort agency, truly beating down the evil faction undefeated, at that time the heroes from the righteous faction saw that his reputation was becoming too great, some of which competed in martial arts with him...

Lin Yuantu ran an escort service, only fighting off those who wanted to rob him or upstarts who wanted to challenge him to make a name for themselves. It wasn't like he went around challenging everyone he could like DGQB. While no doubt formidable, that does not make him the number one of his time - Linghu Chong could probably achieve the same feat by mid-novel.