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    Been watching the 1979 TVB adaptation of CHOR LAU HEUNG starring Adam Cheng, and noted that this series makes frequent references to Japanese martial arts forms and the ninja arts, which is uncommon for most Chinese wuxia. Gu Long made much greater use of Japanese martial arts and even characters than Jin Yong ever did. Jin Yong looked to the steppes for his heroes' rivals and adversaries, never across the eastern sea to the islands of Japan.

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    other than Chu liuxiang (chor lau heung), his "Cleansing Flowers, Refining the Sword" also has a japanese character right? a japanese samurai with a white robe that came to the central plain and challenges all top fighters.

    for Jin Yong's works, i dont remember any character from japan, even "japan" or the related word was never mentioned
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_tumiwa View Post
    other than Chu liuxiang (chor lau heung), his "Cleansing Flowers, Refining the Sword" also has a japanese character right? a japanese samurai with a white robe that came to the central plain and challenges all top fighters.

    for Jin Yong's works, i dont remember any character from japan, even "japan" or the related word was never mentioned
    TVB's DOMD (1984) made a very brief allusion to Japan when Wai Siu Bo used imported Japanese silk handkerchiefs with pornographic images of women embroidered on them to distract Captain Duolong during the rescue of Mao 18 from execution. I have a feeling this particular incident was not in the novel, but the DOMD era would have been a time when at least periodic contact between the Chinese and Japanese had become a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Been watching the 1979 TVB adaptation of CHOR LAU HEUNG starring Adam Cheng, and noted that this series makes frequent references to Japanese martial arts forms and the ninja arts, which is uncommon for most Chinese wuxia. Gu Long made much greater use of Japanese martial arts and even characters than Jin Yong ever did. Jin Yong looked to the steppes for his heroes' rivals and adversaries, never across the eastern sea to the islands of Japan.
    Didn't someone once say JY kept of using Tibet as his 'foreign' martial artists default ground, hence he changed Golden Wheel Monk from Tibetan to Mongolian who studied in Tibet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandred Skavenslayer View Post
    Didn't someone once say JY kept of using Tibet as his 'foreign' martial artists default ground, hence he changed Golden Wheel Monk from Tibetan to Mongolian who studied in Tibet?
    also Lingzhi Shangren, he was from Tibetan Tantra School, then in the third edition JY revised and change his origin to Qinghai
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    CHOR LAU HEUNG '79 certainly has a heavy Japanese flavor, which is rare for a wuxia adaptation series, especially from that era.

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    Did the Japanese even traveled to China back then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stance View Post
    Did the Japanese even traveled to China back then?
    Yes. By the time of the Ming Dynasty, periodic exchanges between the Chinese and Japanese had begun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Yes. By the time of the Ming Dynasty, periodic exchanges between the Chinese and Japanese had begun.
    The Tang Dynasty fought two wars with Japan over Korea and Japan later officially became China's tribute state. This lead to a flowering of exchange between the two nations and it became quite common for Japanese scholars to visit the major cities of Tang Dynasty China.

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