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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Though she doesn't improve at all during 16 years time-skip as the novel said but I think she is better than HR even end-ROCH full-healthy HR and much better than Fan Yiwang which only GSZ disciple so if HR and Fan Yiwang could hold own against post-16 years JLFW then logically XLN also can..
    XLN might be lose after very though duel probably after 300 stances..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Though she doesn't improve at all during 16 years time-skip as the novel said but I think she is better than HR even end-ROCH full-healthy HR and much better than Fan Yiwang which only GSZ disciple so if HR and Fan Yiwang could hold own against post-16 years JLFW then logically XLN also can..
    I don't think HR improved, maybe a little during the 16-year interlude.

    One side palm from JLFW completely shattered HR's dog beating stick, so I don't think HR would last more than 20 stances against JLFW, especially if it is a direct clash, HR would be taken out immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    XLN might be lose after very though duel probably after 300 stances..
    Fair analysis, but Jinyong said during the pre-16 fight of JLFW vs XLN that if he used sheer force, he would overcome XLN.

    Post-16 post JLFW doubled his internal and his palm strikes are much more powerful than before, so with the realization of the concept of "sheer power overcomes speed", JLFW would defeat XLN relatively quickly, maybe within 50 stances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Fair analysis, but Jinyong said during the pre-16 fight of JLFW vs XLN that if he used sheer force, he would overcome XLN.

    Post-16 post JLFW doubled his internal and his palm strikes are much more powerful than before, so with the realization of the concept of "sheer power overcomes speed", JLFW would defeat XLN relatively quickly, maybe within 50 stances.
    My personal ranking regarding JLFW XLN and HR..

    Lv 78 JLFW (end-ROCH)
    Lv 70 XLN (pre and post 16 years)
    JLFW (pre-16 years)
    Lv 58 HR (end-ROCH)
    Lv 56 HR (pre-16 years)
    Lv 48 unhealthy-HR/pregnant HR (pre-16 years)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Fair analysis, but Jinyong said during the pre-16 fight of JLFW vs XLN that if he used sheer force, he would overcome XLN.

    Post-16 post JLFW doubled his internal and his palm strikes are much more powerful than before, so with the realization of the concept of "sheer power overcomes speed", JLFW would defeat XLN relatively quickly, maybe within 50 stances.
    I think no one in Trilogy could beat XLN less than 💯 moves..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    I don't think HR improved, maybe a little during the 16-year interlude.

    One side palm from JLFW completely shattered HR's dog beating stick, so I don't think HR would last more than 20 stances against JLFW, especially if it is a direct clash, HR would be taken out immediately.
    Sori I reply in wrong post..

    My personal ranking regarding JLFW XLN and HR..

    Lv 78 JLFW (end-ROCH)
    Lv 70 XLN (pre and post 16 years)
    JLFW (pre-16 years)
    Lv 58 HR (end-ROCH)
    Lv 56 HR (pre-16 years)
    Lv 48 unhealthy-HR/pregnant HR (pre-16 years)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Sori I reply in wrong post..

    My personal ranking regarding JLFW XLN and HR..

    Lv 78 JLFW (end-ROCH)
    Lv 70 XLN (pre and post 16 years)
    JLFW (pre-16 years)
    Lv 58 HR (end-ROCH)
    Lv 56 HR (pre-16 years)
    Lv 48 unhealthy-HR/pregnant HR (pre-16 years)
    Mostly agreed with your levels.


    Pre-16 HR full-health level: 50, slightly superior to Li Mo Chou (48).

    Post-16 HR level: 51

    Gongsun Chi: 55, I think HR cannot defeat him.

    However, JLFW at level 78
    and the Greats at level 75, so
    JLFW would most likely defeat any Great in ~300-500 stances or he may win because his internal is higher and he is younger (endurance) than the Greats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Mostly agreed with your levels.


    Pre-16 HR full-health level: 50, slightly superior to Li Mo Chou (48).

    Post-16 HR level: 51

    Gongsun Chi: 55, I think HR cannot defeat him.

    However, JLFW at level 78
    and the Greats at level 75, so
    JLFW would most likely defeat any Great in ~300-500 stances or he may win because his internal is higher and he is younger (endurance) than the Greats?
    JLFW Lv 78 only on paper also though he might be win against YD it doesn't matter he would also win against HYS or OYF since both HYS and OYF more "versatile" than YD as fighter so I would give him 50:50 against Greats but if he use his wheels he would "auto-win" IMHO..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Mostly agreed with your levels.


    Pre-16 HR full-health level: 50, slightly superior to Li Mo Chou (48).

    Post-16 HR level: 51

    Gongsun Chi: 55, I think HR cannot defeat him.

    However, JLFW at level 78
    and the Greats at level 75, so
    JLFW would most likely defeat any Great in ~300-500 stances or he may win because his internal is higher and he is younger (endurance) than the Greats?
    At her prime I think HR slightly better than GSZ since in fight you can't always win with your "brawn" but sometimes with your "brain" so I would give 52:48 for HR..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    JLFW Lv 78 only on paper also though he might be win against YD it doesn't matter he would also win against HYS or OYF since both HYS and OYF more "versatile" than YD as fighter so I would give him 50:50 against Greats but if he use his wheels he would "auto-win" IMHO..
    I think 10th level JLFW throwing his wheels at max power is almost unblockable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    At her prime I think HR slightly better than GSZ since in fight you can't always win with your "brawn" but sometimes with your "brain" so I would give 52:48 for HR..
    Fair analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    I think 10th level JLFW throwing his wheels at max power is almost unblockable.
    Yeeep only YG and maybe GJ could handle it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Yeeep only YG and maybe GJ could handle it..
    So JLFW was actually cheating when he was using the wheel to fight YG barehanded during the final fight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    So JLFW was actually cheating when he was using the wheel to fight YG barehanded during the final fight?
    I think he tried to give all his best to fought YG of course he needs his wheels though in people view it's might be quite unfair but YG also use HIS to fought QQR yet no one dubbed that fight "unfair"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    I think he tried to give all his best to fought YG of course he needs his wheels though in people view it's might be quite unfair but YG also use HIS to fought QQR yet no one dubbed that fight "unfair"..
    When a 20-year old young man fights a near Great opponent, give the weapon to the young man.
    Anyways, it was fair because YG has only one arm.

    I wonder what level is pre-16 YG without the HIS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    When a 20-year old young man fights a near Great opponent, give the weapon to the young man.
    Anyways, it was fair because YG has only one arm.

    I wonder what level is pre-16 YG without the HIS?
    I suggested pre-HIS YG in WuxiaMaster character ranking..

    Lv 32 After he learned part of 9 Yin and Jade Maiden Manual but before he met H7G
    Lv 36 After he learned Dog Beating Stick from H7G
    Lv 40 During Hero Meeting
    Lv 42 After HYS lesson
    Lv 45 After JLFW advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    I suggested pre-HIS YG in WuxiaMaster character ranking..

    Lv 32 After he learned part of 9 Yin and Jade Maiden Manual but before he met H7G
    Lv 36 After he learned Dog Beating Stick from H7G
    Lv 40 During Hero Meeting
    Lv 42 After HYS lesson
    Lv 45 After JLFW advice
    After completing the HIS and waterfall training, YG internal and strength increased dramatically and he learned, dodging and evading techniques sparring against the Divine Condor.

    He also learned the Thousand-Jin stand when he was practicing under the waterfall standing on the water rockbed.
    He used this technique when he step on the Taoist's sword using his internal to prevent the sword from moving.

    Therefore, I suggest YG level be at 65 without the HIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    After completing the HIS and waterfall training, YG internal and strength increased dramatically and he learned, dodging and evading techniques sparring against the Divine Condor.

    He also learned the Thousand-Jin stand when he was practicing under the waterfall standing on the water rockbed.
    He used this technique when he step on the Taoist's sword using his internal to prevent the sword from moving.

    Therefore, I suggest YG level be at 65 without the HIS.
    It was true in terms of pure power YG should be around Lv 60 or Lv 65 and combining with HIS his overall level increase to Lv 74 but we must remember at that point YG no different with LHC which he quite "useless" without weapon..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    It was true in terms of pure power YG should be around Lv 60 or Lv 65 and combining with HIS his overall level increase to Lv 74 but we must remember at that point YG no different with LHC which he quite "useless" without weapon..
    I have a pretty good feeling that pre-16 YG barehanded would beat LHC barehanded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    I have a pretty good feeling that pre-16 YG barehanded would beat LHC barehanded.
    Well, yeah...but Lingwu Chung was an unremarkable hand-to-hand combatant.

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