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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Sweeper "may" be 3x more powerful than JLFW in overall martial arts, but I highly doubt he has 3x the internal energy.

    There should be a limit of how much internal one could accumulate using standard or natural training methods like 9yin/9yin, YJJ, Heavenly Glow Sutra, six-year ocean training, Dragon Elephant Prana, etc.
    Unless cheating by energy transfer or absorption, but also there is a limit.
    How could you being better 3x than your opponent but your internal strength only as good as him..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    How could you being better 3x than your opponent but your internal strength only as good as him..
    The answer: Dugu qiubai through legendary techniques or godly level formlessness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    How could you being better 3x than your opponent but your internal strength only as good as him..
    If Sweeper and JLFW with his 10th level Dragon Elephant Prana are from the same universe,
    there is a good chance their internal are ~.
    The difference between these two characters would be techniques or formlessness, like what Dugu possesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    If Sweeper and JLFW with his 10th level Dragon Elephant Prana are from the same universe,
    there is a good chance their internal are ~.
    The difference between these two characters would be techniques or formlessness, like what Dugu possesses.
    Janitor Monk even could "resurrected" people and you say his internal strength only as good as JLFW which even not the best in Trilogy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    The answer: Dugu qiubai through legendary techniques or godly level formlessness.
    If we consider young DGQB internal strength around equal with LHC or FQY then I doubt he could beat someone with great internal like RWX or DFBB so having great technique isn't enough to overcome great-level fighters aka ultimate fighters like Greats and his peers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    If we consider young DGQB internal strength around equal with LHC or FQY then I doubt he could beat someone with great internal like RWX or DFBB so having great technique isn't enough to overcome great-level fighters aka ultimate fighters like Greats and his peers..
    I mean could FQY with his "mediocre" inner strength beat LOCH HYS or OYF even with his "ultimate skill" i.e DG9S well I highly doubt about it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    I mean could FQY with his "mediocre" inner strength beat LOCH HYS or OYF even with his "ultimate skill" i.e DG9S well I highly doubt about it..
    From @ruychii and @FeilongZ theory:
    DG9S was Dugu's first sword stage, his 20s, no high internal required.
    However, if mastered, the palm-breaking and Qi-breaking stances should be able to beat any Great.

    Dugu's ultimate, swordless stage should be able to penetrate Xuzhu or Duan Yu energy shield.
    Or Dugu just use one of his sword and infused it with his internal to wound them.
    Didn't Sword God Zhuo Bufan used a sword to inflict an external injury to Duan Yu's chest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Janitor Monk even could "resurrected" people and you say his internal strength only as good as JLFW which even not the best in Trilogy..
    JLFW's 10th level Dragon Elephant Prana is not the highest internal in the Condor Trilogy?

    Pre-16 JLFW's strength was stated by Jinyong to be higher than GJ.

    Post-16, JLFW doubled his internal. You mean GJ also doubled his internal to catch up with JLFW?

    Internal Abundance:
    Raw: JLFW>YG~Wuji>GJ~Yideng~ZSF>the other Greats and ZBT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    From @ruychii and @FeilongZ theory:
    DG9S was Dugu's first sword stage, his 20s, no high internal required.
    However, if mastered, the palm-breaking and Qi-breaking stances should be able to beat any Great.

    Dugu's ultimate, swordless stage should be able to penetrate Xuzhu or Duan Yu energy shield.
    Or Dugu just use one of his sword and infused it with his internal to wound them.
    Didn't Sword God Zhuo Bufan used a sword to inflict an external injury to Duan Yu's chest?
    So you mean FQY could beat HYS or H7Q..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    JLFW's 10th level Dragon Elephant Prana is not the highest internal in the Condor Trilogy?

    Pre-16 JLFW's strength was stated by Jinyong to be higher than GJ.

    Post-16, JLFW doubled his internal. You mean GJ also doubled his internal to catch up with JLFW?

    Internal Abundance:
    Raw: JLFW>YG~Wuji>GJ~Yideng~ZSF>the other Greats and ZBT.
    When and where JY said JLFW inner strength better than GJ he just said that JLFW raw physical strength was indeed greater than GJ but not his "internal" and again if JLFW inner strength indeed that strong why YG not mention his name when he gauge Jueyuan great 9 Yang why he mentioned GJ and GJ over JLFW..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    When and where JY said JLFW inner strength better than GJ he just said that JLFW raw physical strength was indeed greater than GJ but not his "internal" and again if JLFW inner strength indeed that strong why YG not mention his name when he gauge Jueyuan great 9 Yang why he mentioned GJ and GJ over JLFW..
    Z3F also never mentioned his name when he try to gauge Wuji 8 Yang but Jueyuan and GJ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Z3F also never mentioned his name when he try to gauge Wuji 8 Yang but Jueyuan and GJ..
    Sori I mean Wuji 9 Yang neigong..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Z3F also never mentioned his name when he try to gauge Wuji 8 Yang but Jueyuan and GJ..
    Because JLFW's internal was in a class of its own, higher than everyone mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Because JLFW's internal was in a class of its own, higher than everyone mentioned.
    So then why JY or someone in Trilogy ever mentioned it use his internal strength as a "canon" but always mentioned GJ Yideng and Jueyuan instead..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    So you mean FQY could beat HYS or H7Q..
    My previous post was incorrect.

    I don't think FQY's DG9J could beat a Great at level 75. There is a good chance that FQY did not fully mastered DG9J or even if he mastered DG9J, the max level he could obtain is ~70-72 from DGKB's first sword stage.

    To beat the Great, FQY would need to have higher internal energy.

    Only sword stage 3 (the HIS) and higher sword stages with their profound, ingenious techniques or formlessness could beat Greats and higher level opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    So then why JY or someone in Trilogy ever mentioned it use his internal strength as a "canon" but always mentioned GJ Yideng and Jueyuan instead..
    Because JLFW was a villain.
    Why would they want to put him on a pedestal, even if he had the most profound internal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    Because JLFW was a villain.
    Why would they want to put him on a pedestal, even if he had the most profound internal?
    OYF was also "bad guy" but at least his name mentioned once by HYS and HR as a "benchmark" for YG martial arts and skill..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    My previous post was incorrect.

    I don't think FQY's DG9J could beat a Great at level 75. There is a good chance that FQY did not fully mastered DG9J or even if he mastered DG9J, the max level he could obtain is ~70-72 from DGKB's first sword stage.

    To beat the Great, FQY would need to have higher internal energy.

    Only sword stage 3 (the HIS) and higher sword stages with their profound, ingenious techniques or formlessness could beat Greats and higher level opponents.
    So how could you 3x stronger than your opponent if your internal strength only equal even weaker than your opponent..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    So how could you 3x stronger than your opponent if your internal strength only equal even weaker than your opponent..
    We don't know because that stage is like Sweeper's "enlightened" stage or Dugu's swordless stage.
    Only the author may know

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeilongZ View Post
    We don't know because that stage is like Sweeper's "enlightened" stage or Dugu's swordless stage.
    Only the author may know
    But I believe Janitor Monk not only 3x times better than JLFW but his internal strength also at least 3x times better than Greats include JLFW and YG..

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