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    Non-Loop Questions, "Plotholes" (N)
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    - How does Heyun know know that Mengmeng alight the bus willingly and the driver has been punished in episode 12? Previously, Officier Zhang only told them Mengmeng met with an accident. Only in episode 13, they found out the reason from an online video

    <H> This is a very tricky question! However it is not a loophole.
    Answer is Zhang indeed told them about it
    Please note: Ep12 at 28:04,the clock on the wall is only 8pm. And at Ep13 at 22.09pm, Heyun received the molestor photo, later when Shiqing came back, they went to the police station and doze off. From this we can deduce their daily concentration can last at least till that time. This meant they still have 2 hrs before they becomes drowsy. (Of course another evidence is they can last minutes before midnight during Ludi's time)

    Remember Zhang went to the meeting at the Serious Criminal Conference room after being summoned by Xiaoliu. The Duo can still ask him about the details afterwards. But what additional information could he offer?

    Since Du already has the right investigation direction (EP12: 23:16~22), she did ask the guys to get hold of Officer Qin and the driver. At 27:43~27:48, Zhang seems frustrated. What happened is likely Du went to report to Xiajiang the commanding officer and leave Zhang to deal with Qin. Zhang already knew there is unjust causing the couple to commit the terrorist act. When received the information that the 2 guys is waiting at the room, that means he has only little time to plan how to dig the information out of Qin.

    As such at Ep13 Heyun's concern is not whether Mengmeng alight willingly. It is how after her death she is continue subjected with internet violence.

    <S> NA
    <G> NA
    <E> The director feels there is no need to repeat this information as EP13 11:47, due to Zhang's death, Du will question Qin and the driver herself.
    <D> NA
    <Q> NA
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    - Why is Liu Tao's Du Supertendent acting so poor? She is useless to the whole plot and should be removed? What she does is only drug test?

    During SQ's interrogation in EP3, Zhang ask what suspicious things they observed it is the items that inspire the interest of bomb - sight, smell, hear, theevidence which can be gather outside. From the inside would be non surface probe inspection i.e drug test. What the police is doing is follow a certain protocol which is logical.

    The reaction of Du is very abnormal. Whenever she is dealt with questions like Jiang mentioning about the Loop in EP4, she is seriously in thought. But when at the end at Loop 24 when everything is so smooth sailing. She forgo the need of investigating how HY and SQ knew so much. Zhang however still maintains a vigil need of wanting to understand the truth. His behaviour is consistent.

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    (Combined explanation with <Q>) What if Du herself is a survivor victim of the accident 10 years ago? (possibly explains why she is wearing an obvious wig, likely to cover her scars?) Or it is the first case she handled when she was the chief? Every law enforcer will never forget their first case. If there is a regret buried deep inside her that she cannot forget, such as the perpetrator was never captured? The closure is a cathartic experience for her. She desperately need a release. Therefore, her reaction is understandable.

    With that we can see that Loop 24 - Zhang's Death, her reaction is not only of the pain of losing a colleague. It is an additional burden of another open case under her charge. We can feel the immense stress she is suffering.
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    But there was no mentioned of the previous incident? - Precisely. Zhang knew his boss too well to tear her wounds open. He is too experienced than to wait for her to give instructions. We see he has plans laid out to investigate the truth. Even when Du ask how to deal with the two at EP24, Zhang would say that he has everything under control. Not just as a responsible officer but also a caring one. He wouldnt want Du to ever feel she is shouldering anymore burden than she already has.

    <S> NA
    <G> Du is indeed not an important figure. Perhaps an NPC in a cutscene.

    <E> The director choose Liu Tao due to her fame and exposure from many works such as DGSD'03 and Nirvana in Fire. Frankly, I was sucked into this show by her appearance. I wasnt paying much attention to her since she is a Cale fare. So I can forgive even her acting is really poor rather than explanation of <H>

    <D> Du's consistent "drug test" and similar interrogation techniques seems to remind us that the game designer, HY is not really familiar with other techniques of higher law enforcement management. The source material gathered is wrap around police officers and terrorist. We could say that it is an oversight on his part.

    <Q> Du's first phrase in the show is the key to understand her importance. She mentioned an accident 10 years prior. This is an important supporting evidence of the the Quantum Theory. Refer to Post#29
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    - <Minor Bug?> Based on GPS From Police Station to Riverside East Station 22.4km the police only took 9min to reach there? Does it mean they travel at 150km/h?

    <H> It is a minor bug and can be ignored.

    <S> NA

    <G> In the gaming world, there is no limits how fast NPCs travel.

    <E> It is a forgivable bug. It is just a mechanic to show the police took terrorism very seriously and even as they captured the suspects, they will choose the shortest route to escot them. They short time they travel to Riverside also illustrates their swift response.

    <D> Inside the brain, each dentrites communicate with another with the speed of light.

    <Q> The 9 min information is gotton from EP 12 from Wang's watch at 1.40 versus the time Zhang receive Heyun's message at 1.31. The distance is gotton from EP 3 from the GPS. However, the analogy is wrong. The reason why GPS is needed is due to the bus explosion occured at the junction and it is highly possible the various roads are being blocked off to give way for evacuation purposes. 22.4km is not the usual route to the police station. As such the distance from the police station could be quite short. We do not know the true distance at the moment. Moreover, they are Jialin police, relying on GPS to find the best route under normal circumstances is abnormal.
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    - <Minor Bug?> From the resume of Wang Xingde, it shows that his driving experience is 30years??? How could it be? his age is only 45!

    <H> It is a typo error and can be ignored.

    <S> NA

    <G> In the gaming world, there is no limits how young drivers can obtain license.

    <E> It is a typo error and can be ignored.

    <D> In the brain, each dendrites communicate with another by lightspeed.

    <Q> Using the same analogy as L6<Q>, time ratio for any other region than the junction and bridge is 0.42. This means for 30 years of "Reset" World driving experience, translates to 12.6 years of our time. This is pretty normal. Since we want to compare based on our world's standards, we have to use the time ratio, not compare figures directly. Refer to my Theory on Post#29
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    - Why does the councilor try all sorts of ways not to assist in the investigation?

    <H> We see the distress of her not willing to help could be based on her fear of authority. She is a councilor, interfering with the school policies may get her fired. There is no official directions from the school to assist in the police, every step she she take is based on her decision alone. She might not want to risk her career for it.

    <S> Her will is weak. She said she wouldnt believe that she would never alight halfway on the bridge. Yet she still succumb to internet violence and not even attempt to contact her parents. As a councilor, had she lend a listening ear, the couple might not go to extremes for vengeance.

    <G> She is an critical info NPC

    <E> The director want to expose the different reasons that people might not want to do the right thing.

    <D> The councilor is a projection programmed by HY so as to "kick" out of the dream sequence. The rejection to help is to provide more time for him to design the dream structure to end it

    <Q> The councilor is part of the entanglement between Mengmeng and Shiqing
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    - Why do the director insert the meal preparation of the molestor? Is it necessary?

    <H> Based on the dull expression from the molestor when cooking, he doesnt look too happy to meal prep. To him, it seems like this kind of job should be leave to
    his wife. Could she divorced him and awarded his daughter's custody? With no access to sexual release, he vent it on commuters, knowing he could be "lock up
    for a few days and release" (according to Liyao's mum, perhaps not true).

    <S> Same as <E> but it comes from Mengmeng

    <G> It is part of the ending credits of the game

    <E> The director meant to say "enjoy your last meal". Usually in Wuxia stories, it meant death follows afterwards.

    <D> Its a figment of imaginative curiosity of HY's mind. The endings of all the passengers are good endings. It is very abrupt especially the sudden change of Ludi's
    parents. After a shocking cyclic nightmare, the mind needs a cathartic break.

    <Q> NA
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    - What is inside Mengmeng's HP? Could it contain valuable information about her death?

    <H> Based on the short timing from the molestion to her death it doesnt seem any clue about her demise can be recorded with it
    <S> Even with the bridge ghost theory, there wouldnt be enough time to take a photo of the girl on the bridge. (As such she can only hit the back door like a mad woman)

    <G> A red herring

    <E> The importance of the phone is to reflect the guilt of Wang of failing to answer his daughter's last cry for help.

    <D> HY's mind created the hp as a dead end if he is persistent enough to try uncover the information, it will result in a meaningless loop

    <Q> The most important factor of Mengmeng's phone lies in the tune. It is the string that connects Shiqing and Mengmeng together in the first loop. By right both girls have no connection, it is through the artifical arrangement of Mengmeng's mother both the time & location of explosion & that of Mengmeng's death become intertwined.
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    - What's the issue? Isnt this a happy ending?

    <H> No the real culprit has not been punished. At least 2 of them escaped scott free. One is Officer Qin in charge of Mengmeng's case. He could have been more thorough. Another is the someone who leaked the police footage to "Sunflower Video". He not only has bridge footage. He also gotton the bus camera footage. While the former is only sort of irresponsible, the latter's actions lead to a series of chain reactions resulting in the bus bombing accident. Could it be everything is the works of Qin?

    <S> No. The smile of Mengmeng at the end only means the parents are saved. She is yet to be avenged.

    <G> No. Althought we saw happy endings for all passengers as shown in the mid credits, the gloom look of Shiqing and Heyun at the end credits suggest there might be a PartII

    <D> No. After waking up to a new day, Shiqing and Heyun still working hard on the unsolved mystery Mengmeng's death

    <Q> No. Same explanation as <H> The loop was broken finally is due to Zhang shoulder to responsibility Qin forsake Although both of them are entangled entities. Zhang made the correct choice.
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    <Q> Quantum Field Theory

    Here is my explanation on mechanics of infinite loops. The theory is mainly to explain how the loop occurs and its interactions with the protagonists.
    Most of the story elements are unchanged. It is a view from a scientific / Sci-fi perspective.

    To understand how the loop works, we need to see if there are any evidence in "Reset" that provides a scientific explanation.

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    Evidence of abnormaly:
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    Below is the time sequence for EP12:

    Drama Time "Reset" "Reset"
    (Viewer's Reality) - (Drama Time) - Main Cast's <Time Devices> / Event or location
    1) 31:40 - 13:31 pm - <Zhang's Handphone> Zhang received Heyun message
    2) 32:09 - 13:33 pm - <Police Car GPS> Time
    3) 32:53 - 13:32 pm - <Heyun's Handphone> Zhang replied
    4) 33:35 - 13:38:35pm - <Heyun's Watch>
    5) 33:40 - - Drop off Zone: Bus 45 stopped timing
    6) 35:22 - - Drop off Zone: Bus 45 continue timing
    7) 35:26 - 13:39:51pm - <Wang's Watch>
    8) 36:09 - - Riverside East Stn Police setup complete
    9) 40:49 - - Bus 45 up the bridge timing
    10) 42:08 - 13:42:09pm - <Heyun's Watch> Middle of Bridge 1
    11) 43:28 - 13:44:18pm - <Heyun's watch> Middle of Bridge 2

    From <Zhang's Handphone> to <Wang's Watch> : Police station to Riverside East stn

    Drama Time : 31:40~35:26 = 3min 46sec
    "Reset" Time: 31:XX~39:51 = 9min
    Time Ratio: = Drama Time / "Reset" Time = 0.42X

    This shows that there is time variance between
    our world and "Reset" world. But that is not the point.

    Based on <Heyun's Watch>: From Drop off zone to Middle of Bridge 1
    Drama Time : 33:35~42:08 = 8min 33sec
    "Reset" Time: 38:35~42:09 = 3min 34sec
    Time Ratio: = Drama Time / "Reset" Time = 2.39X

    Based on <Heyun's Watch>: Middle of Bridge 1 to Middle of Bridge 2
    Drama Time : 42:08~43:28 = 1min 20sec
    "Reset" Time: 42:09~44:18 = 2min 9sec
    Time Ratio: = Drama Time / "Reset" Time = 0.62X

    This shows somewhere between Riverside East Station and the bridge, there is abnormal time variance.The likely location is at the junction where the collision of happens. Comparing the bridge to before Riverside East Station, the 47% time speedup (0.62-0.42/0.42*100%) is possibly due to the correlation errors. But the comparison done from the drop off zone to the middle of the bridge is using the same Heyun's watch. Having a speed down of 285% (0.62-2.39/0.62*100%) indicates a time abnormaly.

    Based on time dilation concepts, the further away from gravity, the measurement instrument moves faster. But over here the gravity is the same. For time to remain constant, "Excess time resulting in extra events" need to be looped in to maintain time equilibrium. Now we have establish the mechanics of the loop. How or what causes the loop to occur?

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    The "Incident" 10 years ago: The fuel
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    Superintendent Du mentioned that the crash of the bus and with the oil tanker is the worse accident in recent 10 years.
    EP 1 - Her 1st line in "Reset".
    What could be worse than this? What if there is another accident that could affect time space?
    such as a particle accelerator explosion or a leakage of Dark matter onto the streets?
    We can only speculate. But it is a possibility.

    With the establishment of time abnormaly above, there is a high chance it occurred at the junction

    This is to enhance Question X1 @ Post#22.

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    The Pawns:
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    In reset, there are many parallels which I refer to as entangled entities.
    For example:

    Wang Mengmeng : Li Shiqing

    1) Similar age
    2) Shifan university student
    3) Same councillor
    4) Took bus 45
    5) Jiaodao citizen

    Similar background
    5) Wang Xingde is her dad : Knew Wang Xingde as she often board his bus
    6) Wanted to gift Wang Xingde gloves : Wanted to gift Wang Xingde gloves <- This is insane
    7) Last board vehicle - bus 45 : Last board vehicle - bus 45 <- This is artifically arranged by CA
    8) Died in accident on bridge at 1.45pm : Died in explosion on bridge at 1.45pm <- This is artifically arranged by CA
    9) Bus passengers not willing to help : Bus passengers not willing to help
    10) Tried all means to alight : Tried all means to alight

    Events associated later
    11) Met a real molestor : Accuse a fake molestor
    12) Alight the bus because of molestor : Alight the bus because of "molestor"
    13) Officer Qin as investigator : Officer Zhang as investigator
    14) Liyao as forum enthusiatist : Happyone Bro as tik toker

    As such we have more:

    Molestor : Xiao Heyun
    Officer Qin : Officer Zhang
    Driver Tan : Driver Wang Xingde
    Liyao : Happyone Bro

    All the members did not realise their status as pawns in the entanglement
    and failure to abide by the rules of the entanglement results in reset or death.

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    The Nature:
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    We can visualise this like the Schrdinger's cat thought experiment. If there is no explosion what we see is, there is no connection with Mengmeng and Shiqing. We have totally no clue who they are (i.e 1~7 is unknown). Like the cat. We dont know if it is alive or dead or both alive and dead. It is in quantum superposition. But if their information is slowly uncovered by us audience, we find many similarities with them - in Quantum terms the wave collapse to a single point.

    This brings about a characteristics of quantum entanglement. If one particle is entangled with another, even when they are light years away. They will affect each other, even in another time or space. They are entangled or share similarities (1~7) long before the accidents occured. The subsequent similarities are established slowly from the perspective of the audience (8~14) but that doesnt mean they werent entangled before. It is the historical information that is hidden from us. Metaphorically speaking, the moment Mengmeng walks doen the bus is the moment Shiqing wakes up and conciously experience the blast. By right even if they are entangled, without CA's careful coordination, they would have been 2 seperate incidents. Now the whole thing becomes a controlled experiment.


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    The Effects:
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    The fuel acts as the hand to drive the loop to bind entangled entities within them such that they can only have 1 outcome - Death or Reset. The loop cannot be easily broken due to the more and more "Pawns are being dragged into the picture". They are being entangled as well. We saw what violation does to pawns who decide to violate the system. For example:

    1) Heyun attempts to alight, he could, but later he would either be roasted in the taxi (Loop6), Blasted at the hands (Loop21), the least painful is by taking a nap. Yet we could see Shiqing alight without much issue, she did have a concussion at (Loop6) but thats it. This is likely due to Mengmeng did alight the bus where the molestor didnt. If Heyun corresponds to molestor, he shouldnt alight.

    2) Heyun killed CA and assumes that once the bomber is dead, the loop is closed.

    3) The Duo saved everyone but Officer Zhang is killed in the process.

    4) Heyun's failing health is due to not staying on board, rather than he theorize, due to time not reversing backwards. The evidence is in EP6 where he seems to start not feeling well inside the taxi. In EP 19 where Shiqing was killed previously, he looks ok during that loop.

    From this I gathered, the "safety condition" as follows:
    A) Noone on Shiqing's Bus 45 can die ; as all the passengers on Mengmeng's bus are still alive (including Heyun as the molestor is still alive)

    B) Noone can alight the bus before solving the loop ; as all the passengers are on board before Mengmeng was killed (and the loop)

    C) Officer Zhang cannot die in Loop 24 ; as Officer Qin is still alive

    D) Death or Reset need to occur ; as Mengmeng is already dead and she is inside her video loop.

    With these restrictions, the protagonist has to find switchable variables, alter them such that they satisfy Conditions A)~D). "Reset" arranged c) for Officer Zhang to take over the investigation for A) Molestor while only relying Shiqing to inform him while on the bus B) is really brilliant. Luckily, the police did not attempt to defuse the bomb violating D), instead they allow it to explode in the river killing few fishes in the process.

    A interesting point, if Shiqing had chosen Happyone Bro, he might not have failing health as the tech savvy guy corresponds to Liyao
    and she alighted the bus as well.


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    The Ripple Effect:
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    Why does the wake up time shift backwards? Why does it stop when CA board?

    The reverse of time in "Reset" is similar to the movie "Memento" metaphorically. It exposes information slowly to the audience during the process binding pawns to the Loop. It stopped when all available information that supposed to be known on board Bus45 is revealed. It is also analogous to curiosity or mere survival that prompt Shiqing to investigate the truth. Ironically, this had led to more people being entangled. If she would have just close her eyes and accept death, the entanglement resulting would not have started.

    Of course, we wouldnt have this brilliant show - Reset.
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