hey thanx 4 answering my questions every 1 alot of my friends dont bother with these debates and say its a waste of time and since i cant read chinese its hard 4 me understand every thin i watch and read since its not as detailed as the books but eny ways i got a another question about taichi and the 9 yang book it seems that "yang" type energy and kung fu are forceful and hard in nature such as guo jings dragon palms and the iron palm technique so how so how come tai chi which was created through the theories of the 9 yang jin jing be so soft and fluid? i remember reading that vacant fist was a yin energy technique and that seems to be similar to tai chi so how can a technique like taichi be derived from yang theories i think i missed sum thing along the reading so can sum 1 fill me in? thx