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    In wuxia fiction, characterization is usually fairly clear cut. There are heroes, and there are villains, and the distinction between them is usually obvious. That being said, which characters in wuxia would you say are the most morally ambiguous? Which characters cannot exactly be described as heroes, but cannot really be characterized as villains either?

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    Huang Yao Shi, Yang Xiao, Xie Xun, Wei Yi Xiao, Yin Tian Zheng.
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    i'd say alot of villains r evil but many r pushed into it.......like seng kwun - i'd do the same thing to get bak at the ming sect.
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    With the way JY is revising the novels, pretty soon much of the villians will have ambigious background.

    My personal nomination: OYF

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    Originally posted by kamii
    i'd say alot of villains r evil but many r pushed into it.......like seng kwun - i'd do the same thing to get bak at the ming sect.
    so you're willing to be a war-starting, baby-killing, serial rapist-murderer just to piss off a dead guy.

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    Gee...why dont one of you start a thread and debate about whether Seng Kwun is really wrong or right?
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    ok i will....in 5 minutes

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    mie juet shi tai. she was mean
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    yea mie juet was so intent and obssessed with killing people she was on the edge of good going evil!
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    I'd say Mie Jue was over zealous if anything. Personally I feel YTZ was probably a prime example. Perhaps the TBG of the novel?
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    zhou zhi ruo, yang kang, no.2 evil guy-the girl...no.3 evil guy-divine croc of south sea, xiao yuan shan

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    Wat?!?! Yang Kang? I assume ur referring to YG father YK. Wasn't he just downright evil. It was a long time since a saw the ROCH but i clearly remeber YK as an evil selfish bastard. He betrayed his friends/family did he not?
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    Umm...Xia Xue Yi from Sword Stained with Royal Blood...people feared and respected him and I guess he was kinda like Huang Yao Shi.
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    Xiao Yuanshan

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamii View Post
    Wat?!?! Yang Kang? I assume ur referring to YG father YK. Wasn't he just downright evil. It was a long time since a saw the ROCH but i clearly remeber YK as an evil selfish bastard. He betrayed his friends/family did he not?
    Which family? He has 2.
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    Yideng, Li Mochou, Qiu Chuji, & Zhen Zhibing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aniking_8 View Post
    Yideng, Li Mochou, Qiu Chuji, & Zhen Zhibing?
    Yideng and Qiu Chuji?!

    I'm curious as to why you find these characters grey when it comes to valuations on the moral scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snafu3721 View Post
    Yideng and Qiu Chuji?!

    I'm curious as to why you find these characters grey when it comes to valuations on the moral scale.
    Qiu Chuji have bad temper and try blame others for his mistakes while Yideng care too much for a woman to isolate himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aniking_8 View Post
    Qiu Chuji have bad temper and try blame others for his mistakes while Yideng care too much for a woman to isolate himself.
    Those aren't quite moral factors that distinguish between a "good" person or an "evil" one.

    Qiu Chuji may have a bad temper, but he is righteous and willing to admit defeat. I've always felt that the 7 Freaks were more to blame for the incident at the restaurant and temple.

    As for Yideng, I don't see how isloating himself as a monk because he felt remorse at his ONE selfish act in the novel degrades his morality.

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    Probably the Eastern Heretic. Although he was fiercely loyal to the Chinese empire, he was also a bully to many Chinese people, regardless of their morals. He couldn't be called a hero but he couldn't be called a villian either.

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