How the heck is Candide still a regular poster on this board?
How the heck is Candide still a regular poster on this board?
At the risk of being pwned by Laviathan again, I posit this:
If Xiao Feng's suicide had not made the Liao Emperor think (or rethink) and changed nothing, would it still have been heroic? Or merely tragic?
Conversely,
If Murong Fu had succeded, would he still have been a tragedy? Or would he have become a hero to his people?
i guess you're pretty serious about this.Originally posted by Candide
It is, in this case.
good what if question... who are Murong Fu's folks? They don't really mention it.Originally posted by Dirt
At the risk of being pwned by Laviathan again, I posit this:
If Xiao Feng's suicide had not made the Liao Emperor think (or rethink) and changed nothing, would it still have been heroic? Or merely tragic?
Conversely,
If Murong Fu had succeded, would he still have been a tragedy? Or would he have become a hero to his people?
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If you're asking about his parents, we know that his father was Mo Yung Bok. No word on who his mother might have been.Originally posted by James Ko
good what if question... who are Murong Fu's folks? They don't really mention it.
If you're asking about the nation he was fighting for, the Yin Kingdom existed in the Five Dynasties period (I think). We might need to consult some of our historical authorities for more info on that one.
It's the intention that counts. If Xiao Feng failed to stop the war, it would have been a failed heroic attempt, but heroic nevertheless. Whereas no matter MRF succeeds or not in restoring his dynasty, it can only be considered self-interest (or interest in HIS people, but not all people).Originally posted by Dirt
At the risk of being pwned by Laviathan again, I posit this:
If Xiao Feng's suicide had not made the Liao Emperor think (or rethink) and changed nothing, would it still have been heroic? Or merely tragic?
Conversely,
If Murong Fu had succeded, would he still have been a tragedy? Or would he have become a hero to his people?
The difference in the motives: If both succeeded, MRF would become a hero to his people like you said, but Xiao Feng would become a hero to ALL people.
(in other words, XF has surpassed the stage of nationality; what he did is overcome nationality without nationality, but we won't go there )
another irony is how dy ran away becos he did'nt want to learn yi yang zhi but in the end he lernt somethin that was even more lethal.lol
dy constantly say he dosen't know kungfu yet his equipped with 1 of thebest combinations of kungfu anyone can imagine to have.
I already mentioned that in my 2nd response in this thread (see page 1)Originally posted by - L1n -
another irony is how dy ran away becos he did'nt want to learn yi yang zhi but in the end he lernt somethin that was even more lethal.lol
Xu Zhu being taught since childhood that he should not crave fame, women, fortune, but ended up the power and finance of Ling Ju Palace and a beautiful wealthy princess for a wife.
Madame Ma thought she was the most beautiful women in the world but died wih a scratched ugly face. Another irony could be that she was very beautiful outside, but she was super ugly on the inside.
Xiao Feng promised to leave China with Ah Zhu, but instead left with a Ah Zi.
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The Murong Yan Empires existed during the Eastern Jin Dynasty.Originally posted by Ken Cheng
If you're asking about the nation he was fighting for, the Yin Kingdom existed in the Five Dynasties period (I think).
For Murong Fu: the Xianbei have totally merged within the Han Chinese, so he did not have a people to fight for. The ones who wanted to restore the Yan were the Murongs themselves only. But in the end, Murong Fu was merely driven by his own ambition of becoming emperor, while Murong Bo sincerely wanted to restore the old dynasty.
對 敵 須 狠 , 斬 草 除 根 , 男 女 老 幼 , 不 留 一 人
how dy's foster dad messed around with women and his wife messed around with his elder.lol
Mok Yeun Cheng lifts up her veil for DY because he is the first guy she loved but DY turned out to be her brother! poor girl!
Well, in the end it turnt out that DY was not her brother afterall.Originally posted by Metamorphosis
Mok Yeun Cheng lifts up her veil for DY because he is the first guy she loved but DY turned out to be her brother! poor girl!
Originally posted by Metamorphosis
Mok Yeun Cheng lifts up her veil for DY because he is the first guy she loved but DY turned out to be her brother! poor girl!
In the novel this isn't precisely so. She showed her face to DY because one of the Evils (3rd or 4th) wanted to see her face (and she couldn't avoid that because of her lesser Kungfu), since she had promised to marry the first man who saw her face, she thought DY would be a better 'choice' compared to the Evils. After that, she thinks she must marry DY, this is quite a very strange and dominant girl, DY has nothing to decide
Duan Yu's dad screwed around too much. In the end he was punished having all daughters no sons and his daughters getting screwed by other peoples sons lol !!
Huh? Where does this come from? Last time I checked, the cute Zhong Ling was fine.Originally posted by qiaofeng
Duan Yu's dad screwed around too much. In the end he was punished having all daughters no sons and his daughters getting screwed by other peoples sons lol !!
I hope these hasn't mention earlier
- YTZ give his eyes to AhZhe to show his depest love, but in the end they both blind and died, and AhZhi choose XF.
- AhZhi want to see again so much but she make herself blind again so she has no debt to YTZ
Spring Summer Autumn Winter.
Pair ducks nest fly together.
Clemencies. Summer life, feather winter white.
Green meadow in spring, before the autumn bite.
Watching the red gown.
And none else, alone.
The list of ironies continues...
Bai Shijing is the punishment-executing elder of the Beggar Clan whose job is to ensures justice. Yet behind everyone's back, he was doing dirty deeds, killing a fellow senior and framing the Murong family. In the end, it was he who got executed for injustice.
忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」
Sweeper monk the character is an irony in itself.
Powerful character doing a 'menial' task.
Xiao Feng was undefeated in battle, so it made sense that the only person who could end his life...was himself...
The Truth is out there
I say we leave it there...