What you said was "[Zhang Ziyi] look more like a spoiled brat than a geisha who is graceful and skilled at all sorts of ancient jap culture. " Your intentionally insulting comment clearly suggests you think Zhang Ziyi doesn't look "graceful" or "cultured." Rather than these good things, according to your own words and the context in which they were used, you think she looks more like a "spoiled brat." Not quite a compliment.Originally posted by beansprouts
I said that Zhang Ziyi LOOKED more like a spoiled brat, not she IS a spoiled brat.
If that's your opinion, then why do you no longer own up to it? You're words and the context in which they were used are quite clear. Just the same, imo you're a "hater," exactly like I first said. I stand by my opinion. And why should you even care what I think of you anyway?
Just like you're voicing your opinion that you think Zhang Ziyi looks more like a "spoiled brat," I'm voicing my own opinion that I think she looks more "graceful" or "cultured," like a geisha.Originally posted by beansprouts
And Southern Crane, dont you think you are being too defensive about Zhang Ziyi?
EXACTLY!!!Originally posted by beansprouts
How well Zhang Ziyi can pull off Memoirs is left to be seen when the show actually comes out.
Maybe now you're realizing you've spoken too soon and that it's just possible Zhang Ziyi could "look more like a geisha who is graceful and skilled at all sorts of ancient jap culture than a spoiled brat. "
If you find me addressing you as a "hater" nasty name calling, then you have far more issues to sort out than whether or not Zhang Ziyi is convincing as a geisha.Originally posted by beansprouts
And then maybe we can have another nasty name calling session here to sort out whether she was convincing as a geisha or not.
I admittedly have not yet read the book, but soon will. So, I'm not familiar with the characters that could be written into the screenplay. As I've said myself before, and objectively speaking, I'd much rather a Japanese cast, including the female leads. Though I'm resigned to the fact that the female leads will not be Japanese, at the very least, I'm hopeful the male leads and other supporting cast members will be.Originally posted by beansprouts
I would be quite interested to see who gets the male characters though. Almost all the male characters in the book are ugly looking and had some major flaw one way or another (Burns scar, no hand, extremely ugly blah blah blah). It would be way off the mark if they cast some famous chinese actor like Chow Yun Fatt or Jet Li.
The earlier part of the story depict Sayuri (the main character) as a child.... I wonder where are they going to find a miniature version of Zhang Ziyi. I always hated it when the child version of the character differs very much from the adult version.
Oh well, if they are going to cast a star studded main cast with the likes of Zhang, Gong and Yeoh, they probably wont have enough money left for casting famous people as supporting roles. I hope they dont shortchange us on the scenery and the costumes though.
I'm just voicing my opinion that, other than not really looking Japanese, I think the chosen Chinese actresses can really pull of their roles convincingly. I've seen enough of all three to form an informed opinion that it's very much possible.