If Yeung Gor replace Yeung Hong...

[Ken Cheng]

Also, if YG was raised as a Jin, he will has a different set of virtue. He will follow the Jin's virtue and moral standard. He won't have Huang Rong there to teach him Confucious teachings.

Interestingly, after the Juchen began to occupy northern China in the early 12th Century CE, they gradually began to adopt Chinese culture as their own...including Chinese ideas about personal morality. Some of the Juchen leaders opposed this and tried to enact laws that forced the Juchen people to remain true to their native cultural beliefs and practices, but these were not successful. Like many other foreign occupiers of China (including the Mongols and the Juchens' own Manchurian descendents in the 15th Century), the Juchen found the lure of Chinese civilization too great to resist.

[CC]

I got no problems with YG being more righteous then YK. The only problem is renouncing his adopted father. YG would never do that. If YG was the same YG from ROCH, even if his adopted father became a beggar he wouldn't renounce him. So there is gonna be a big problem for him to choose sides.

[Yeung Gor]

He would of had suicided like XF to end the war!

And he still would of had gotten with XLN. He would of had traveled to the QZ mountain with his teacher, there he would be abused by the stupid priests. He would run away and meet granny. He would live in ancient tomb as XLN's martial brother. When XLN gets old enough they will fall in love and live happily together until the Jin and Han go to war again. He will then choose to kill himself in the middle of the battle field to stop the war. XLN would die there too, in each other's arms.

Don't separate XLN and YG!

Not to worry. If YG is place in YH shoes, he will have this re-occuring dream of an angelic girl in beautiful white dress calling him "Gor-Yee, Gor-Yee"; everytime he tries to run towards her she disappears. He will not know what the dreams mean, but he feels a strong connection to her. Because of this re-occuring dream, he will not fall in love with any girl as well as the need to leave the riches behind to go in search for answers. Yeung Gor met one of the QZ seven, was taking as a student and later on he meets Hong 7Gong who like YG so much that taught him 18Dragon Palms. As many years past and having advance his martial arts, YG pay a visit to QZ temple as he overheard troubles will befall the Temple. As he arrive, the Mongolian troops and the QZ disciples were battling and this was the day XLN turn 18. After YG defeated Fok Do and his men, YG notice beyond the trees there is this area so familiar to him, he head towards there and found the Ancient tomb. He remember being told it's forbidden for QZ student to go, but YG's rebellious nature lead him to venture forward. YG comes up to the entrance of the tomb, and suddenly he heard a beautiful voice call out "Tresspasser, please leave the Tomb". YG notice the voice sounded just like the girl in his dream. He refuse to leave, and then suddenly a swarm of Jade bees swarm him. YG immediately rushes into the Tomb, a few bees stung him but YG did not noticed. He was so focus in seeing the girl behind the voice. A strong feeling of emotion pumps through his heart. He had to meet her. So he rushes through the corridor of the tomb blindly, but somehow he knew exactly where to go. YG finally arrives in a main room, in the corner of his eye a white cloth with bells on the tip flies toward him at alarming speed. YG grabs the bells and at the end of this cloth, stood the girl he has seen in his dream for basically his entire life. He stood motionless, just starring at XLN. Then suddenly, from deep within his heart, he utters the words "Gu Gu?". XLN was wondering why this older man would call her Gu Gu, so she responded "You are older than me, how am I your Gu Gu?" Then YG walked closer to XLN, then finally the light from the torch shine over YG's mature face, XLN finally see's YG's eyes and suddenly the two stood there, looking in a deep gaze as if time has frozen still and the world is revolving around them. XLN finally whisper the words "Gor-Yee?" She does not understand why she knows his name, but the overwhelming passion that stirs in her heart drove her to dive into YG's arms. YG held her tightly and the story of Return of the Condor Heroes now begins.

[kidd]

Not to worry. If YG is place in YH shoes, he will have this re-occuring dream of an angelic girl in beautiful white dress calling him "Gor-Yee, Gor-Yee"; everytime he tries to run towards her she disappears. He will not know what the dreams mean, but he feels a strong connection to her. Because of this re-occuring dream, he will not fall in love with any girl as well as the need to leave the riches behind to go in search for answers. Yeung Gor met one of the QZ seven, was taking as a student and later on he meets Hong 7Gong who like YG so much that taught him 18Dragon Palms. As many years past and having advance his martial arts, YG pay a visit to QZ temple as he overheard troubles will befall the Temple. As he arrive, the Mongolian troops and the QZ disciples were battling and this was the day XLN turn 18. After YG defeated Fok Do and his men, YG notice beyond the trees there is this area so familiar to him, he head towards there and found the Ancient tomb. He remember being told it's forbidden for QZ student to go, but YG's rebellious nature lead him to venture forward. YG comes up to the entrance of the tomb, and suddenly he heard a beautiful voice call out "Tresspasser, please leave the Tomb". YG notice the voice sounded just like the girl in his dream. He refuse to leave, and then suddenly a swarm of Jade bees swarm him. YG immediately rushes into the Tomb, a few bees stung him but YG did not noticed. He was so focus in seeing the girl behind the voice. A strong feeling of emotion pumps through his heart. He had to meet her. So he rushes through the corridor of the tomb blindly, but somehow he knew exactly where to go. YG finally arrives in a main room, in the corner of his eye a white cloth with bells on the tip flies toward him at alarming speed. YG grabs the bells and at the end of this cloth, stood the girl he has seen in his dream for basically his entire life. He stood motionless, just starring at XLN. Then suddenly, from deep within his heart, he utters the words "Gu Gu?". XLN was wondering why this older man would call her Gu Gu, so she responded "You are older than me, how am I your Gu Gu?" Then YG walked closer to XLN, then finally the light from the torch shine over YG's mature face, XLN finally see's YG's eyes and suddenly the two stood there, looking in a deep gaze as if time has frozen still and the world is revolving around them. XLN finally whisper the words "Gor-Yee?" She does not understand why she knows his name, but the overwhelming passion that stirs in her heart drove her to dive into YG's arms. YG held her tightly and the story of Return of the Condor Heroes now begins.

I was only able to read the first 1/4 of this post of yours. Cannot continue anymore. Even Qiong Yao cannot compete with u in terms of mushiness.

[Candide]

I can't read that estrogen-charged post. Christ on a bike, Yeung Gor...

[Yeung Gor]

I was only able to read the first 1/4 of this post on yours. Cannot continue anymore. Even Qiong Yao cannot compete with u in terms of mushiness.

To think I wrote the short version.

Who is Qiong Yao?

[Yeung Gor]

I got no problems with YG being more righteous then YK. The only problem is renouncing his adopted father. YG would never do that. If YG was the same YG from ROCH, even if his adopted father became a beggar he wouldn't renounce him. So there is gonna be a big problem for him to choose sides.

Very true. YG would probably do everything he can to prevent war.

[PJ]

Who is Qiong Yao?

Novelist of romance-centric contents.

When I introduce my name to (Chinese) strangers, half of the time I get the comment: "your name sounds like a male protagonist from Qiong Yao's novels."

[kidd]

To think I wrote the short version.

Who is Qiong Yao?

Qiong Yao is a romance writer. She wrote stuff like 'Green Green Grass By The River' ( 青青河边草 ) and 'Princess Returning Pearl' ( 还朱格格 )

Check here : http://www.spcnet.tv/qiongyao/qyreadingroom.shtml

[PJ]

... XLN finally whisper the words "Gor-Yee?" She does not understand why she knows his name, but the overwhelming passion that stirs in her heart drove her to dive into YG's arms. YG held her tightly and the story of Return of the Condor Heroes now begins.

Believe it or not, I actually made it through most of the story. Very clever and imaginative. In my humble opinion, an excellent starting point for a series of steamy sex scenes (and not necessarily driven by romantic overtones).

[Bangs]

I got no problems with YG being more righteous then YK. The only problem is renouncing his adopted father. YG would never do that. If YG was the same YG from ROCH, even if his adopted father became a beggar he wouldn't renounce him. So there is gonna be a big problem for him to choose sides.

Hmmm, maybe. How bout if YG knows the whole truth of how WYHL tricked BXR into marrying him, besides it wasn't YTX's fault that he was separated from his family. YTX and BXR would've lived a happily married life if not for WYHL and the Jins.

[GuGu]

Not to worry. If YG is place in YH shoes, he will have this re-occuring dream of an angelic girl in beautiful white dress calling him "Gor-Yee, Gor-Yee"; everytime he tries to run towards her she disappears. He will not know what the dreams mean, but he feels a strong connection to her. Because of this re-occuring dream, he will not fall in love with any girl as well as the need to leave the riches behind to go in search for answers. Yeung Gor met one of the QZ seven, was taking as a student and later on he meets Hong 7Gong who like YG so much that taught him 18Dragon Palms. As many years past and having advance his martial arts, YG pay a visit to QZ temple as he overheard troubles will befall the Temple. As he arrive, the Mongolian troops and the QZ disciples were battling and this was the day XLN turn 18. After YG defeated Fok Do and his men, YG notice beyond the trees there is this area so familiar to him, he head towards there and found the Ancient tomb. He remember being told it's forbidden for QZ student to go, but YG's rebellious nature lead him to venture forward. YG comes up to the entrance of the tomb, and suddenly he heard a beautiful voice call out "Tresspasser, please leave the Tomb". YG notice the voice sounded just like the girl in his dream. He refuse to leave, and then suddenly a swarm of Jade bees swarm him. YG immediately rushes into the Tomb, a few bees stung him but YG did not noticed. He was so focus in seeing the girl behind the voice. A strong feeling of emotion pumps through his heart. He had to meet her. So he rushes through the corridor of the tomb blindly, but somehow he knew exactly where to go. YG finally arrives in a main room, in the corner of his eye a white cloth with bells on the tip flies toward him at alarming speed. YG grabs the bells and at the end of this cloth, stood the girl he has seen in his dream for basically his entire life. He stood motionless, just starring at XLN. Then suddenly, from deep within his heart, he utters the words "Gu Gu?". XLN was wondering why this older man would call her Gu Gu, so she responded "You are older than me, how am I your Gu Gu?" Then YG walked closer to XLN, then finally the light from the torch shine over YG's mature face, XLN finally see's YG's eyes and suddenly the two stood there, looking in a deep gaze as if time has frozen still and the world is revolving around them. XLN finally whisper the words "Gor-Yee?" She does not understand why she knows his name, but the overwhelming passion that stirs in her heart drove her to dive into YG's arms. YG held her tightly and the story of Return of the Condor Heroes now begins.

That is sooooooooo SWEET!
Please continue in PM, I want to know what happens after this!
Do they live in the ancient tomb together forever?

[Candide]

Believe it or not, I actually made it through most of the story. Very clever and imaginative. In my humble opinion, an excellent starting point for a series of steamy sex scenes (and not necessarily driven by romantic overtones).

Well, sorry to disagree, but most of porn subscribers would've turned that video off way before it got to the steamy parts, mate. Sleepiness doesn't make people horny and watch erotica.

[Yeung Gor]

Qiong Yao is a romance writer. She wrote stuff like 'Green Green Grass By The River' ( 青青河边草 ) and 'Princess Returning Pearl' ( 还朱格格 )

Check here : http://www.spcnet.tv/qiongyao/qyreadingroom.shtml

Perhaps I should also consider a career as romance writer. LOL

I do like Yao's novel titles.

[flyingfox2002]

Not to worry. If YG is place in YH shoes, he will have this re-occuring dream of an angelic girl in beautiful white dress calling him "Gor-Yee, Gor-Yee";

Hi, I didn't read your story, but I did notice that XLN speaks lazy Cantonese? :X

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I think that if you put YG's personality in YH, and have YH experience the identical situations as he did in LOCH, then YH would have indeed abandoned his Jin roots. But he would not have necessarily joined the Sung side either. He probably will just wander around, brood, and kick Sung or Jin soldier a$$ when he sees either side bully the other side's civilians. Methinks this YH will always side with the underdog. In other words, if GJ was about to kill WYHL, he would save WYHL; if WYHL was about to kill GJ, he would save GJ.

[Yeung Gor]

Believe it or not, I actually made it through most of the story. Very clever and imaginative. In my humble opinion, an excellent starting point for a series of steamy sex scenes (and not necessarily driven by romantic overtones).

haha suprised and no comment

[PJ]

Well, sorry to disagree, but most of porn subscribers would've turned that video off way before it got to the steamy parts, mate. Sleepiness doesn't make people horny and watch erotica.

Most porn subscribers are what I consider to be rather shallow. They can be pleased and aroused by forced heartless acting as long as there's some action. From an iconoclast's perspective, I demand a more artistic and heartfelt approach. My vision of the perfect erotica is to be provocative, intense, and shocking, and I will give you an example.

Let's say that I continue Yeung Gor's story. Following the romantic start, the viewer ancitipates a similar conituation. That's when I send them on a trip beyond their head, by shocking them with unadulterated lusty portrayals of two lovers, the hornified explicitness and intensity beyond the viewer's grasp of comprehension. As a viewer myself, I want to see the unexpected, the shocking, the sudden burst of passion, rather than the traditional contrived overdone slow versions(which is what actually puts me to sleep)

Think of it this way: when the viewer is ready to turn off Yeung Gor's story and fall asleep, suddenly the shocking new direction will charge them up and make them go WOW. That I envision to be more interesting than your average porn.

[Edmund Lau]

It's quite unlikely that HR would ever fall for YG. At most, they could come to mutual respect for each other's cleverness.

HR's ideal man is someone who is 100% loyal and devoted to her - and preferably someone with high morals (so that she can look up to him) and yet dumb enough (so that he can tolerate her). YG is very much a flirt (like YH) and although he too can love very deeply, it's unlikely that he can tolerate HR.

~ Edmund Lau

[Ken Cheng]

I was only able to read the first 1/4 of this post of yours. Cannot continue anymore. Even Qiong Yao cannot compete with u in terms of mushiness.

I puked up a banana I ate seven years ago.

[babyblues]

Sorry, Yeung Gor. I read only up to 2nd line...

Anyway, I think Yeung Gor will be loyal to Wanyan Hong Lie. Yeung Gor has shown that he is loyal to whoever treats him well (See Ouyang Feng) You can't say that is being "evil". National identity, is a neutral concept. Don't we migrate from place to place nowadays? If Yeung Gor wants to become a Jin citizen, is it wrong?

Wanyan Hong Lie's ambition to invade Song will be viewed as bad today. But that's only cos of modern emphasis of human rights etc. We known war is bad. Back then, there was constant invasions etc. A country who wanted to become powerful would want to expand territorial rights. A country who has weak incompetent leaders is "asking" to be "meat" for another stronger country. Not saying this is right but it's the realities of life. Survival was the overiding interest in everything. To survive, you need power to withstand attacks.

I think if Yeung Gor was adopted into the Jin household as a teenager, he will have little ties/relationship with the Songs. By the time he met Guo Jing who is a good man but on the opposing end of his adopted father, his loyalties would remain with his adopted father.

Guo Jing's ties to him will not be as per ROCH, where he is a doting uncle, almost psuedo father. Yeung Gor will respect him but that is about it.

The only thing that will really hold him back is as pointed out by others, whether he himself supports wars. This is where Mu Nianci's teachings come into play. Mu Nianci was a very patriotic Song citizen. I am pretty sure she drummed it into his head from young that he is never to betray the Song empire(especially after Yang Kang). This will then be in conflict with what Wanyan Hong Lie is doing.

When Yeung Gor is placed in the middle of 2 opposing parties, he usually tries to dissuade confrontation (see fight between Ouyang Feng and Hong Qigong). But I think when push comes to shove, if he has to save a life, it would be the life of the man who loved him (Feng) instead of the man whom he respects (Hong). But he will not step in to help anyone to drive the other to their doom.

So I'll say he will not actively participate in the war between Wanyan Hong Lie and Guo Jing. But if it comes to a point where only 1 can survive, he will protect Wangyan Hong Lie. I also think if Wan yan Hong Lie loves Yeung Gor as a son like he did with Yang Kang, he will not insist on dragging him into this position of conflict. His only request to Yeung Gor is that he remains his son, by his side. He will do all the fighting and necessary evil for Yeung Gor to enjoy in the future.