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    7 injured fist with the raw fierce inner power of XF or YG would be devasting

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    7 injured fist with the raw fierce inner power of XF or YG would be devasting
    Unfortunately, the aggressive type of internal energies in Jin Yong universe easily get dissipated by advanced martial arts such as Taiji and Vacant Fist. It's like throwing energies into the ocean.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Unfortunately, the aggressive type of internal energies in Jin Yong universe easily get dissipated by advanced martial arts such as Taiji and Vacant Fist. It's like throwing energies into the ocean.
    if doubt even Z3F can dissipate their energy that easy we are not talking about fighter inferior to him. Actully both XF and YG had was probably better than Z3F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    if doubt even Z3F can dissipate their energy that easy we are not talking about fighter inferior to him. Actully both XF and YG had was probably better than Z3F
    Although we've never seen Zhang Sanfeng do it,
    in A Deadly Secret, it was mentioned/shown that Taiji can dissipate stronger forces.
    This is an essence of Taiji art.

    And in ROCH, Zhou Botong showed that he could dissipate Golden Wheel Monk's superior forces.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Although we've never seen Zhang Sanfeng do it,
    in A Deadly Secret, it was mentioned/shown that Taiji can dissipate stronger forces.
    This is an essence of Taiji art.

    And in ROCH, Zhou Botong showed that he could dissipate Golden Wheel Monk's superior forces.
    maybe so but then he was only in defensive mode and would not have a chance to attack at all.

    If YG used his sad palm to it's fullest extent then I think it would be too much even for ZBT or Z3F...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    maybe so but then he was only in defensive mode and would not have a chance to attack at all.
    Well, that's a fundamental philosophy of these energy-conservation arts: you let your opponent waste a lot of strength, while you don't spend much, so you outlast them.

    If YG used his sad palm to it's fullest extent then I think it would be too much even for ZBT or Z3F...
    That's possible, but in that case Sad Palms would win due to its unpredictable stances, not its aggressive internal energy. Aggressive internal energies will almost certain lose to energy-conservation arts.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    That's possible, but in that case Sad Palms would win due to its unpredictable stances, not its aggressive internal energy. Aggressive internal energies will almost certain lose to energy-conservation arts.
    Too bad that has never been really stress tested.

    I'd like to see Taiji/Kongming vs 6MSJ.

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    Would that even work? Would it be possible to dissipate invisible swords?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC View Post
    Too bad that has never been really stress tested.

    I'd like to see Taiji/Kongming vs 6MSJ.
    probably not gonna work if it could then MRF would have used star shifting. Now you can argue that ZWJ or Z3f had much deeper internal than him but it doesn't matter since DY had more than 2 x their internal. For an fighter to use taiji it would maybe work if he had more much internal.

    Kongming can't really counter 6msj ZBT or GJ would get killed if they dared to mess with DY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    7 injured fist with the raw fierce inner power of XF or YG would be devasting
    I'd like to see XF or YG with Xuan Ming Shen Zhang. You Tan Zhi with XM Palm would be crazy too. Double Super Yin poison!


    Xu Zhu with the Decaying Corpse poison should do some serious environmental damage too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC View Post
    I'd like to see XF or YG with Xuan Ming Shen Zhang. You Tan Zhi with XM Palm would be crazy too. Double Super Yin poison!


    Xu Zhu with the Decaying Corpse poison should do some serious environmental damage too.
    don't you have to use yin energy to power XMSZ? YTZ with XMSZ would cause major damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    If YG used his sad palm to it's fullest extent then I think it would be too much even for ZBT or Z3F...
    Meh. Not everybody is sold on the "invincibility" of Sad Palms. It was a powerful technique, to be sure, but better than the best of the other Greats?

    That has yet to be proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC View Post
    I'd like to see Taiji/Kongming vs 6MSJ.
    6MSJ is on a whole new height than Taiji or Vacant Fist.
    I think it is just too fantastic to be countered by those.

    One good way to counter 6MSJ would be superior lightness kung fu.
    Ironically, Duan Yu has both.
    But I think Dongfang Bubai might be equipped to counter 6MSJ (assuming the practitioner of 6MSJ didn't know Treading Waves Light Steps).
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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