Tony Sun Xie Zhi

**bonniec1** · 02-09-09, 12:15 AM

Thanks again for the links, exadel. Now I recognize the leader of 1+1. He was ok in the ZYDGD magic show. ( I only watch ZYDGD for the magic show). But I really hope that Chris Ko's statement that Jungiery will focus on 1+1 doesn't mean that 5566's new album will be delayed. Now that Xiezhi is finished filming ZQMTX, I am really hoping to see new projects from him.

**Jules** · 02-09-09, 01:03 AM

Totally agree, that tongue twister segment was so hilarious definitely a classic. Haha poor MZ, the other guys simply love to bully him. They were all so spontaneous and I don't think I have seen any other boybands or idols rolling on the floor laughing like them. That is what I like about 5566 - they are so natural. Oh well, miss those good old WQYL. Too bad WQYL stopped celebrating their birthdays because XZ's birthday is coming up soon and I am sure there is nothing special planned for him.

It's amazing how they can turn a childish game into something so entertaining. They seem so oblivious of the audience, like in their own private game world yet the onlooker would find lots of fun just watching them.

**hotasuki** · 02-09-09, 04:08 AM

Hopefully, the promotion of the new group will mean that members of 5566 will appear in more programmes this year. Though I doubt that they will appear as a group. But if it means you see them more often....

Honestly, I'm starting to get quite tired of the B-classed characters already. They're all starting to piss me off, I don't know if it's just me, but I feel that some of them are starting to get quite arrogant (the ones that pissed me off anyway). I avoid all programmes where they appear now, which left me with little choices.

**bonniec1** · 02-09-09, 02:37 PM

I know what you guys mean- I love watching 5566 in variety shows because they are really entertaining, funny and natural. That's why their appearance in BWDGX was a treat. I wonder if that episode got good ratings? I really hope that other producers/channels took notice and invite them to more shows.

**exadel** · 02-09-09, 09:17 PM

Based on the trend in Taiwan showbiz, A-listers do not appear on variety shows unless they are promoting their albums/dramas or on special occasions like CNY. It is usually the lesser-known artistes or those without special talents who often guest on such shows to gain exposure or earn money. I am sure Sun Zhong will not want to "lower" the status of 5566 by putting them on too many of such shows. Which is why I can only hope that he get them hosting jobs instead, and preferably if they can host a show together (unlikely to have all 4 of them together so at least 2 of them can be paired up).

Actually I feel that XiaoQiao and YuRong are quite unlucky. "Prince Turn into a Frog" drama made QiaoEn and MingDao overnight stars, though at that time MingDao was red-hot whereas QiaoEn is still not as famous in comparison. However, it was still enough to give her leading roles and she hit the pot of gold with "Fated to Love You". XiaoQiao is the 2nd female lead in WZBQW but she was somehow overlooked and did not seem to benefit much from this show.

As for YuRong, he may be the lead actor in the Hakka show but the Hakka community is rather small in Taiwan. So, he did not gain much fame even though that Hakka show was said to be well-received.

I think SunZhong should allow XiaoQiao, YuRong and WeiRu to guest on games and talk shows since they are not really A-listers. Can't remember if XiaoQiao is still co-hosting any shows but at least their appearance on variety shows will let the audience remember them and they can also earn extra cash. I did see WeiRu on some beauty shows and KangXi and I think that is a correct move. Even though she is sweet-looking, she can never get meaty roles because of her tiny frame which makes her look like a little girl.

Btw, just saw KeWei (可唯) on WPDJD and she said that she is now under the management of Shen YuLing. So she must have given up and left Jungiery.

**bonniec1** · 02-09-09, 11:18 PM

Yeah- it does make sense that A-listers such as 5566 only appear on variety shows on special occasions or when promoting new work. I'm hoping that they will appear more this year if they are helping to promote the new group.

I agree that the less popular J-stars should participate more in variety shows to help gain exposure. Certainly I feel they are better than a lot of the B-Listers who appear on almost every show. It is too bad that Xiao Qiao didn't really improve her status after WZBQW, but perhaps her last 2 dramas (Full Count and the drama with Sam Wang) did not do as well as expected.

**pat/clare** · 02-09-09, 11:27 PM

Xiao Qiao did host a game show but i'm not sure whether the show is it the latest ones or the TV station repied it.

I really hope that 56 will 1 day host as a group like they did last time as a host in SNDGD. Really miss those days.

Ke Wei really deserves more fame. Now she is under Shen Yu Ling, hope he will give her more jobs and exposure.

**exadel** · 02-10-09, 01:48 AM

According to some unofficial (unreliable?) news, 5566 is supposed to help promote the new group or groups. Anyway, the best way to promote new groups is for 5566 to release a new album and bring them along as their backup dancers ... that was how they tried to promote Taiji. Or better still, 5566 can stage a concert and get the rest of the groups to be their guests which was also what they had done before. Oh dear, I am really day-dreaming - slight chance of releasing new album this year and zero chance for a concert since their foray into the China market frizzled out

**pat/clare** · 02-10-09, 02:07 AM

Thanks exadel for the links.

Didn't expect that they will drag until may or june. I thought they maybe will drag it until march or april.

Another best way to promote the new groups is to release 5A and get them to sing with the new groups like what they did before with 7F, VJ, R&B and Taiji.

**Jules** · 02-10-09, 02:26 AM

Chris Ko said that Jungiery will be actively promoting 1+1 this year. Makes me shudder when I think about this because it seems that Jungiery is only capable of promoting one group at a time. Hope SZ remembers that besides MD and QE he still has other loyal and "jobless" stars in his company.[/quote]

When Jungiery signed up Johnnie Yan , Taiji , the little boy who's a skate board champ ( forgot his name ), and even Shin band, I thought it was a very adventurous move and unique way of diversifying their artistes base. As I tracked their progress, it looks that Jungiery likes to have multi talented people but unfortunately, the company seems to have only 1 strategy of promoting them ie following the footsteps of 56 in becoming all rounders via riding on their senior's success, guest spots in variety shows or tagging along when 56 are on.
For one thing, not all have the personality or calibre of 56 ( you must admit they're pretty unique ) to reach that level. I remember some incidents when Shin (who are not talkers but otherwise a good band ) were prodded to speak up more in order to 'become more visible'. The partnership didn't last very long.
2ndly, promoting every group the Jungiery way soon becomes predictable.
I liked the way how Warner kept FIR a secret till my curiosity was exploding after hearing 'Lydia' on an OST. And they have maintained their success just as a band without getting into hosting or acting.
New talents being added to Jungiery is good but maybe they should look to bringing in fresh blood into the management pool too for revamped promotion strategies.

**hotasuki** · 02-10-09, 04:29 AM

Actually, their chances in China didn't really fizzle out. 5566 are not extremely hot in china but unlike most other idols, they still have a very good chance, an even better chance of enjoying lasting popularity. Their songs are extremely popular in china, especially 'Wo Nan Guo'. It's more popular than them. Unlike, most other areas, where popularity only lasts temporarily, to this day, 'Wo Nan Guo' is still extremely popular in China. According to a china friend, she loves the song but has no idea who 5566 are.

Xiao Gang, songwriter of Wo Nan Guo is really popular in china, so it'll be really great if they could work with him again on their next album. Sunzhong also has built a great relationship with members in china.

However, with this foundation, they can still make it in China, but they need to focus on their talent and not being an idol. So they really need to produce an award winning 5th Album to be really successful. XZ especially has won a lot of fans with Mojian. He is really popular there right now, best of all his talent is being acknowledge.

**exadel** · 02-10-09, 08:44 AM

Yes, 5566 is very special in that they are good at whatever they set out to do. Also agree that Jungiery should seriously review their promotion strategies and stop being so idealistic thinking that the fans will never forsake their stars even when they have no new projects to show.

Wow, it is good to know that Wo Nan Guo is still popular in China. Afterall, it is said that in China you can remain popular for a very long time by relying on just one famous song. One example is Huang An (黄安) who is able to make tons of money from Xin Yuan Yang Hu Die Meng (新鸳鸯蝴蝶梦). I too hope that 5566 can work with Xiao Gang again because he knows them very well and should be able to write them great songs that showcase their strengths.

Btw, to me Bravo album is an album targeted at their fans only. In order to please the fans, they gave the 4 guys equal singing parts. As a result, the songs were ok but nothing to crow about and definitely will not attract the non-fans.

So I hope that they select their songs for the 5th album carefully. Now that more non-fans have a better impression of 5566, they should capitalise on that and try to win some new fans over. They should choose award-winning songs that showcase their singing prowess (which means that they should go back to the old formula and let XZ and RF do most of the singing). Then perhaps other people will be won over by their singing and also buy their album.

**Jules** · 02-10-09, 12:55 PM

Xiao Kang with 56 was quite a winning combination then. If I remember correctly, he was not for 56 multi-tasking ( that was in their hey day when jobs were lined back to back ) cos it left them so worn out that their vocals ( including XZ n RF ) were in bad shape by the time they go for recording.
I tend to agree cos I find if XZ is well rested, he sounds fantastic as in BWDGX. There were times in earlier performances when he had difficulty hitting the high notes and holding his pitch.

**bonniec1** · 02-10-09, 02:37 PM

I'm glad that Wo Nan Guo is really popular in China, but I thought 5566 was quite popular there too?

I thought I read in another forum that they were part of the top 25 male artist list last year? I think they are #58 on the Baidu chart.

Luckily Xiezhi is still popular due to Mojian- so he should really take advantage of this and act in another wuxia series.

**hotasuki** · 02-10-09, 05:41 PM

hopefully, warner will be more cooperative this year since chen zheshan returned. (the guy that brought 56 into warner and made jolin famous, unfortunately also the guy that was accused of buying the awards & chart rating for jolin..)

I was watching RF & JQ's interview yesterday and was quite shock to learn that he was one of the first people to be informed, & involve in the decision about their 1st pregnancy. There were also rumours in end of 1997 that he wanted to pull them into capital-sony.

The bad reputation aside, chen is well known to be a great promoter so a new album under him would be well produced & publicise

With regards to the 4th album, I suspect that warner didn't provide funds because they didn't really want to release it at the same time as the other boybands.

**exadel** · 02-11-09, 05:18 AM

Haha, about Xiao Gang - makes me think of how 56 loves to tease XZ saying that he hoards all the x-rated movies supplied by Xiao Gang.

Not sure if XZ is keen on acting in another wuxia show. According to the news on Jungiery CNY dinner, XZ was very pleased when the reporters noticed that he has fuller hair now. He revealed that a stranger introduced him a hair-care product about half a year back and there are positive results after he used it. He said that his hair loss was especially bad after filming mojian so I wonder if his concern about his precious hair will stop him from taking on period dramas. If he intends to act in China productions then I think he should act in period/wuxia shows because China is only good at that. Their contemporary or idol dramas are not popular and are seldom shown outside China.

I remember Warner representatives did attend Jungiery CNY dinner. Hopefully that means Warner still regards 56 as an asset and will pay more attention to them now that Chen ZheSan has returned (didn't know he is on such good terms with RF). Actually, I feel that 56 was very courageous (impulsive?) to release their 4th album at the same time as F4 and Farenheit. At that time, 56 had been quiet for so long and their popularity had dipped as compared to the other 2 groups. Oh well, I hope they have better plans for their 5th album.

**hotasuki** · 02-11-09, 03:17 PM

According to WQYL XZ had greater hairloss from the stress of filming ZQMTX. Period dramas are probably less stressful compared to that.

btw Chen is friendly with SunZhong, not renfu.

**bonniec1** · 02-11-09, 11:38 PM

Warner reps attending the Jungiery dinner is a good sign. I'm keeping my hopes up for 5A.

Darn- I really was hoping that Xiezhi would take on another wuxia series. I think the genre really suits him. But- glad to read that his hair is getting fuller- maybe he will grow it a bit longer for a change? Haven't seen him with longer hair since 2006.

**exadel** · 02-12-09, 02:15 AM

Don't worry, Xiezhi did not say that he will stop acting in wuxia dramas. According to the press, he is still interested in acting and he said that he is good at comic roles and hope to act in a comedy. He is also keen on taking on roles such as a mute or blind or retarded person.

In mojian, he thinks his hair loss is due to wearing that artificial hairpiece. As for ZQMTX, his hair problem was aggravated by stress and his other worries. I think he should learn to relax and not be too harsh on himself if he wants to stamp his hair loss problem. In whichever dramas he takes on, he should just concentrate on protraying his character well and let the director or production team worry about the ratings and money.

At the personal level, it is about time he learns to be more selfish and put himself first. He should just do things that make himself happy and stop thinking that his purpose in life is to slave for others and make them happy. I hope he can be more like Renfu who dare to defy conventions but unfortunately Xiezhi was brought up to be a conservative and rigid person.

Haha about Renfu, I feel he should put on some weight after his wedding. (No offense meant) but Renfu is known to have a big head and it is more obvious now that his shoulders have shrunk so I hope he can buff up his body a little bit more

Oh, I saw a news article today about YuRong filming a scene for the current settv idol drama (bai quan nu wan 败犬女王 - think that is the title, the one with Ethan Ruan). He plays a doctor and though I am sure it is only a supporting role, I am glad he has a part in it.

**pat/clare** · 02-12-09, 12:10 PM

Hopefully XZ will get a chance to act in a new wuxia dramma. His acting in mojian is grate. He can act as a goody and other drammas and also can act as a baddy in mojian. I would like to see him acting as a blind and mute person. especially for a 100% eyesight person to act as a blind person is very difficult.I remember seeing a dramma called "mi ke go!", the main female needs to act as a 100% blind person and it makes me feel like when my eyesight really fade one day from a 40% eyesight to 100% blind, how will i fell? The female lead really act very well.

Ya. Didn't know that "wo nan guo" is so well-known in china. Like what you guys said, their 4th album is not as nice as their previous albums. And if they release 5A, they must get back to something like what they previously did but improve more on it. Correct me if i'm not wrong, they have not yet goten any awards yet right?

Glad to hear that XZ's hair had turn white to black back and has grown.

Oh exadel, the show that you talked about in ur post is "bai quan nu wang". Saw their BTS. I thinkits quite a interesting dramma although i've not seen a single episode yet.

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