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    This thread has sidetracked a little from the topic, but to add to the discussion about why Lin Pingzhi did not wait to inherit Hua Shan skills;

    I was re-reading, after Lao Denuo was uncovered to be Zuo Lengchan's disciple, he revealed that he witnessed Yue Buqun slashing Lin Pingzhi after they had found the unconscious Linghu Chong who just recovered the manual. Yue then killed his 10th disciple who had saw him try to kill Lin. Lin survived by pretending to be dead, he realised Yue's treachery and quickly stuck around Yue Lingshan for his own protection.

    Yue Buqun had tried to kill him before, Lin Pingzhi would not trust him at all, not to mention waiting for Yue to impart his skills.

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    I wonder what would happen in wulin if Lin Pingzhi made thousands of copies of Bixie Swordplay and spread them throughout wulin so it's no longer a secret. Will there be countless number of castrated martial artists in wulin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    I wonder what would happen in wulin if Lin Pingzhi made thousands of copies of Bixie Swordplay and spread them throughout wulin so it's no longer a secret. Will there be countless number of castrated martial artists in wulin?
    Probably. Considering there are people willing to be eunuchs just to earn a living, the promise of superpowers seems like a better deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tape View Post
    Probably. Considering there are people willing to be eunuchs just to earn a living, the promise of superpowers seems like a better deal.
    But Bixie Swordplay isn't all that powerful either. YBQ and LPZ aren't that great after they learn Bixie. There are still plenty of people in wulin can beat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    But Bixie Swordplay isn't all that powerful either. YBQ and LPZ aren't that great after they learn Bixie. There are still plenty of people in wulin can beat them.
    There are very few people that can beat even LPZ, not to mention YBQ. And besides LHC, the ones that can beat them have been practicing for many decades while YBQ practiced for a year or two?

    DFBB who has practiced for a decade or so is so far above everyone else it's not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tape View Post
    There are very few people that can beat even LPZ, not to mention YBQ. And besides LHC, the ones that can beat them have been practicing for many decades while YBQ practiced for a year or two?

    DFBB who has practiced for a decade or so is so far above everyone else it's not even close.
    They are still much weaker than Feng Qing Yang, Fang Zheng, Fang Sheng, Chongxu and RWX who didn't need to make any sacrifice. Given the sacrifice, they should be way more powerful in order to be worth it. Even if they can reach DFBB level within a year or two, it's still not worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    They are still much weaker than Feng Qing Yang, Fang Zheng, Fang Sheng, Chongxu and RWX who didn't need to make any sacrifice. Given the sacrifice, they should be way more powerful in order to be worth it. Even if they can reach DFBB level within a year or two, it's still not worth it.
    Who are you to decide for them if it's worth it. FWIW, Winston Churchill once made a joke about it. When informed by an aide, discreetly, that his flies were undone, he replied, "Dead birds don't fall out of nests". But then again, you're someone who hold GWM to higher standards than those shown by GJ, somehow expecting someone holding an advantage to throw away said advantage for "a fair fight", something that even Guo Jing is averse to if he can possibly help it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    They are still much weaker than Feng Qing Yang, Fang Zheng, Fang Sheng, Chongxu and RWX who didn’t need to make any sacrifice. Given the sacrifice, they should be way more powerful in order to be worth it.
    From a useless disciple-class, Lin Ping Zhi became a very powerful fighter in more or less a year. Very few people were able to fight him. Those who you named took a very long time to get to their respective levels, and the only way to be more powerful than them is to be a cheat character who gets a lot of power boosts like Xu Zhu and Duan Yu.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    Even if they can reach DFBB level within a year or two, it’s still not worth it.
    How do you define worth? A person’s garbage might be another’s treasure. It’s all depends on your point of view.

    Lin Ping Zhi’s main objective was to avenge the death of his parents as quickly as possible by any means. He is willing to do anything for his revenge, including cutting off his family jewel. As he was successful with his main objective, the sacrifice made was truly worthwhile for him.

    Yue Bu Qun’s main objective was to rule the martial world by any means. Just like Lin Ping Zhi, he is willing to do anything to achieve his objective. With the sacrifice, he managed to snatch the much coveted position of the Five Mountains School from Zuo Leng Chan, something unthinkable without the said sacrifice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace High View Post
    From a useless disciple-class, Lin Ping Zhi became a very powerful fighter in more or less a year. Very few people were able to fight him. Those who you named took a very long time to get to their respective levels, and the only way to be more powerful than them is to be a cheat character who gets a lot of power boosts like Xu Zhu and Duan Yu.
    I guess it's better be Xu Zhu, Duan Yu and LHC than LPZ

    How do you define worth? A person’s garbage might be another’s treasure. It’s all depends on your point of view.

    Lin Ping Zhi’s main objective was to avenge the death of his parents as quickly as possible by any means. He is willing to do anything for his revenge, including cutting off his family jewel. As he was successful with his main objective, the sacrifice made was truly worthwhile for him.
    If he is smart, he would marry YLS and pretend not to know anything. YBQ has only one daughter, so he will eventually pass all the great martial art of Huashan to LPZ. Too bad for him that he is stupid with no patience.

    Yue Bu Qun’s main objective was to rule the martial world by any means. Just like Lin Ping Zhi, he is willing to do anything to achieve his objective. With the sacrifice, he managed to snatch the much coveted position of the Five Mountains School from Zuo Leng Chan, something unthinkable without the said sacrifice.
    YBQ could make thousand and thousand copies of Bixie and spread them throughout wulin. Lot and lot of idiots will learn bixie. Zuo Leng Chan will have a lot of problem to deal with, he will not have the time to go after YBQ. YBQ will have peace.

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    He killed his own wife, and already tried to kill LPZ even when he was pretending not to know anything. With your intelligence and patience I'm sure you would do much better though!

    How is creating thousands of people stronger than you better than having one person stronger than you....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    I guess it's better be Xu Zhu, Duan Yu and LHC than LPZ
    I think you misunderstood the point. Xu Zhu and Duan Yu received massive internal power boosts that catapult them from weaklings to very powerful fighters while Lin Ping Zhi received none yet he became a powerful fighter in less than half a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    If he is smart, he would marry YLS and pretend not to know anything. YBQ has only one daughter, so he will eventually pass all the great martial art of Huashan to LPZ. Too bad for him that he is stupid with no patience.
    You do realize that Yue Bu Qun has tried to kill Lin Ping Zhi when Lin knew nothing? Because of the killing attempt did Lin Ping Zhi realised who actually stole the manual. Furthermore, how can he be sure Yue Ling Shan feeling for him was real? After all, she is the daughter of the Hypocrite Sword.

    And again, Lin Ping Zhi’s sole objective was to avenge his family at all cost. To him, losing his family’s jewel is absolutely worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    YBQ could make thousand and thousand copies of Bixie and spread them throughout wulin. Lot and lot of idiots will learn bixie. Zuo Leng Chan will have a lot of problem to deal with, he will not have the time to go after YBQ. YBQ will have peace.
    And those idiots who learned Bixie Jian Fa will leave Yue Bu Qun alone to dominate the martial world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace High View Post
    I think you misunderstood the point. Xu Zhu and Duan Yu received massive internal power boosts that catapult them from weaklings to very powerful fighters while Lin Ping Zhi received none yet he became a powerful fighter in less than half a year.
    That is why you better be Duan Yu, Xu Zhu and LHC as things will go your way. On the other hand, if you are not the protagonist life is much harder for you.

    You do realize that Yue Bu Qun has tried to kill Lin Ping Zhi when Lin knew nothing? Because of the killing attempt did Lin Ping Zhi realised who actually stole the manual. Furthermore, how can he be sure Yue Ling Shan feeling for him was real? After all, she is the daughter of the Hypocrite Sword.
    Well, he surely can trust Yue Lingshan as she is willing to marry him. As long as he can successfully marry YLS, YBQ will no longer go after him as you can see it in the series.

    And again, Lin Ping Zhi’s sole objective was to avenge his family at all cost. To him, losing his family’s jewel is absolutely worth it.
    If he has the patient, he can wait for it.

    And those idiots who learned Bixie Jian Fa will leave Yue Bu Qun alone to dominate the martial world?
    Those idiots will cause a lot of troubles for ZLS to handle, YBQ will have peace. After all, Bixie/Sunflower is just a piece of trash, not worth it to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    That is why you better be Duan Yu, Xu Zhu and LHC as things will go your way. On the other hand, if you are not the protagonist life is much harder for you.
    They are the protagonists. What else do you expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    Well, he surely can trust Yue Lingshan as she is willing to marry him. As long as he can successfully marry YLS, YBQ will no longer go after him as you can see it in the series.
    He didn’t trust her. He is using her as a shield, and also to fool people especially Yue Bu Qun.

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    If he has the patient, he can wait for it.
    He didn’t has the patience, and he didn’t wait for it. If he did, he won’t castrate himself immedietly after he got the manual.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    Those idiots will cause a lot of troubles for ZLS to handle, YBQ will have peace. After all, Bixie/Sunflower is just a piece of trash, not worth it to learn.
    Yue Bu Qun’s ambition/goal is to be the leader of the Martial World. Not to live peacefully. Those idiots will not be focusing on Zuo Leng Chan alone. They will run havoc in the Martial World. And that piece of trash a.k.a the Sunflower Manual turned a talentless and useless low class disciple into a powerful fighter equal or better than a master class in less than half a year.
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