Dongfang Bubai (under constraints) -vs- Dugu Qiubai (under constraints)

[ChronoReverse]

That's very likely... that is to say, the internal energy portion is. That's the important and significant part of KHBD after all (unless you think that the original eunuch used needles as his technique).

However, the 72 strokes were clearly not very good in themselves. It was the extreme speed that made them deadly but even then LHC was able to compete with the strokes and then even defeat the strokes despite the speed indicating that the strokes were a handicap.

Since Lin Yuantu dominated wulin and was clearly a martial arts genius, I do not believe he could possibly be limited in such a way. Thus, I conjecture that these strokes were to hide the true nature of PXJF (which is the internal energy driving incredible speed).

This is supported by the fact the entire wulin thought that it was the techniques of PXJF that was amazing. That the Lin family were incompetent in learning the technique. That they (e.g., Qincheng School) copied the strokes imperfectly. They only thought they needed the "xin fa" and perhaps an internal energy method.

Nobody had an inkly about the speed of PXJF.




Combine this with the idea of formlessness being the realm of masters, and it becomes a short hop in thought to come to the conclusion that Lin Yuantu had some formlessness and was able to simply utilize Sword Intention with his speed. The strokes then cease to matter for the result and served to give observers something to see. By using only just enough speed to win, they would never suspect Lin Yuantu's real secret was speed.

[Trien Chieu]

I don't think there even is 72 stances in the KHBD practiced by DFBB. The 72 stances of PXJF were a ruse created by Lin Yuantu to disguise the real power of KHBD. With that kind of speed, the technique itself didn't really matter too much.

From what I can tell, Lin Yuantu was likely at some level of formlessness.

Since Lin Yuantu was a martial arts genius and he was a monk at shaolin, he should know a lot about shaolin martial arts, not just the PXJF (KHBD). He should know that his 72 stances alone aren't enough for his decendants. I wonder why he didn't teach them other shaolin martial art other than those 72 useless stances.

Yeah, I agree that those 72 stances is not part of KHBD manual practice by DFBB as they are created by Lin Yuantu.

What is matter with KHBD is its internal energy and speed. It can turn any ordinary swordplay into a deadly one. Anyway, only idiot willing to make such sacrifice to practice KHBD (PXJF).

[Trien Chieu]

Back to the topic, I think Dugu Qiubai is better than DFBB.

Lol actually I think I would be willing to make such a sacrafice if it can really turn me into the best killer under the heaven haha

So you are willing to sacrifice your manhood for power, wealth, and fame?? How can you enjoy life without your manhood?? Most men would rather die than losing their manhood. I guess the grass on the other side of the fence is alway greener. Something you never had is always better than things you are having.

[devilz91]

That definitely does not make you a "woman".

[Trien Chieu]

Why do you think that it would be a better version of Lin Zhennan and not a better version of Lin Pingzhi? Lin Pingzhi seemed to have very little internal energy and yet he was defeating a first class fighter in one stance, and it was said that even an Elite fighter (such as Ren Woxing) would have trouble blocking a stance from Lin Pingzhi.

LPZ defeated first class fighter in one stance? Who did he defeated? DFBB, FQY, Fangzheng, Chongxu, RWX, ZLC?? FQY, Fangzheng or Chongxu would beat Lin Pingzhi's bixie swordplay easily. While Bixie gives the practitioner a good jump but it's not that great.