Team War: Ming Cult Fighters vs MRB + JMZ + MRF

[augster123]

"Who dares to trespass Brightness Peak at this hour?" a voice boomed out, showing an elite class internal energy cultivation. “Visiting our headquarters this late at night, you must either not have an interest to live longer or must be very confident in your abilities. How about coming down from the roof and let us meet one another?” another voice asked, showing decent level internal energy cultivation.


Sure enough, 3 masked figures were crouching on top of the roof shingles. They were surprised that their presence was detected, as 2 of them were well experienced, sneaking around Shaolin Temple, seemingly undetected for many years. One had grey hair, showing that he was most likely the eldest of the 3. The other had black hair, and the last one had no hair.


“Hahahaha, Ming Cult certainly lives up to their strong reputation in Wulin,” the eldest masked intruder laughed loudly. “Father, what should we do now?” the youngest masked man anxiously asked. “Fu’er, no need to worry. Since they know we are here, let us head down,” the eldest intruder answered. “Exactly. With our combined strength, there should be no problem. Futhermore, I have strong confidence in Gusu Murong’s persuasive abilities,” the bald intruder added. “Great Wheel Monk, you flatter me too much,” the eldest intruder laughed.

3 of them leapt down from the roof and confidently strutted into the main hall of Brightness Peak. In the hall, all 14 of Ming Cult’s top fighters were present, including Ming Cult’s top dogs, Zhang Wuji and Yang Dingtian. Everyone was on high alert for any sneaky attacks from the 3 masked men. From their lightness kung-fu and steps coming into the hall, the Ming Cult’s fighters knew that the grey haired intruder and the bald intruder have extremely, rare, high level martial arts.

The 3 intruders unmasked themselves. “Gusu Murong, father and son, and Great Wheel Monk Jiumozhi, pays respect to Ming Cult’s top fighters,” said Murong Bo. Indeed, it was those 3 men. “May I ask what are your intentions in visiting Brightness Peak this late?” Zhang Wuji politely asked. “Real man does not speak lies. Rumors throughout Wulin says that the prized possessions of Big Hero Guo Jing and Big Heroine Huang Rong, Yue Fei’s War Manual and 9 Yin Manual, lies with Wulin’s largest cult. I would like to borrow the Yue Fei’s War Manual in order to assist my cause in restoring the great Yin’s Dynasty,” Murong Bo answered sternly. “Old monk here, would also like to take a quick look into the famed 9 Yin Manual,” Jiumozhi replied sincerely.

Laughter erupted in the hallway. “Heheheh! I just heard the biggest joke in my life. Too funny.” “Yes, let’s just give them their requests. And while we’re at it, why don’t we let you borrow the Qian Kun Da Lo Yee manual as well?” “Old monk did have that intention!” Jiumozhi answered excitedly.

“Hahahaha, if only their martial arts and war tactics abilities were as good as their farting, then they wouldn’t need to creep around Brightness Peak like rats trying to steal food.” “Outrageous talk!” Murong Fu exclaimed, unsheathing his sword. “One moment, Fu ‘er. I highly respect Ming Cult’s top fighters. If we are to join hands and scheme carefully, the dream of restoring Yin’s Dynasty can be reached. I will make all of you great generals and the riches and treasures that follows, does not need to be elaborated on further,” Murong Bo calmly proposed.


The faces of the Ming Cult’s fighters all turned serious. “Total bullsh*t!” “Despicable scoundrel!” “Since you know that the items that you seek were once possessed by great heroes Guo Jing and Huang Rong. Then you should have also known that Ming Cult shares their beliefs and stand as well. Your selfish dream will cause many innocent lives to be lost. We want no part in it. This conversation is over!” Zhang Wuji shouted out.


“Very well. Those that obey us shall live, those that go against us shall perish. Let's see if our Gusu Murong’s Star Shifting Technique is better or if your Demonic Cult’s Qian Kun Da Lo Yee is better. Fu ‘er and brother Jiu, make sure none of them lives!” Murong Bo roared out!

Team War has finally ignited!

Ming Cult Fighters (Zhang Wuji, Yang DingTian, 2 Brightness Peak Protectors (YX and FY), 4 Guardian Lords (White Eagle, Golden Lion, Purple Dragon and Green Wing Bat), 5 San Ren (forgot their names), and Yin YeWang (White Eagle King's son)

vs.

Murong Bo + Jiumozhi + Murong Fu

Who wins and hears the victory music? And "Game over" happens to which team? Discuss and don't forget to cast your votes!

[PJ]

Replace Murong Fu with Xiao Yuanshan, and the DGSD team has a much better chance.

Assuming Zhang Wuji =~ 1 DGSD Elite... 2 Protectors + 4 Lords =~ 1 Elite, then we're left with Yang Dingtian and 5 Wanderers, and Yin Yewang, who IMO would defeat Murong Fu easily.

The best bet for DGSD team is for Jiumozhi to wipe out Zhang Wuji with his exquisite technique.

[augster123]

Replace Murong Fu with Xiao Yuanshan, and the DGSD team has a much better chance.

Assuming Zhang Wuji =~ 1 DGSD Elite... 2 Protectors + 4 Lords =~ 1 Elite, then we're left with Yang Dingtian and 5 Wanderers, and Yin Yewang, who IMO would defeat Murong Fu easily.

The best bet for DGSD team is for Jiumozhi to wipe out Zhang Wuji with his exquisite technique.

it'd be overkill if i replaced MRF with XYS, and it wouldn't really fit the "scenario" of this team war anyways.

2 Protectors + 4 Lords would fall short of an elite i think. i'd place them a bit above YTZ. in terms of ROCH, a shade below QQR.

furthermore, one of the 2 DGSD elites can always try to pull off what XF did at that Manor place. the numbers are certainly much less here but in terms of skill level, Ming Cult's overall skill level probably better than those at the Manor.

[Wellesley]

For such a well written fanfic I have to answer at least something beside the poll choice.

I'm of the belief that MRB and JMZ are slightly better than ZWJ in terms of inner power (the old Xiao Feng having better inner power than JueYuan argument). And to top it off, Murong and JiuMozhi are much more experienced and ruthless, and for me that counts a lot in battle.

Murong would be a good choice to fight ZWJ, because with his Star Shifting technique experience, ZWJ's QKDNY wouldn't seem so weird.

Jiumozhi would be good vs YDT, the 4 guardian lords and and 2 protectors, as JMZ has demonstrated extraordinary abilities in battling multiple elite fighters at once, such as during his fight against the 6 Dali monks using the 6MSJ formation, which he could have beaten in a second battle.

Murong Fu would have to survive against the 5 flag guys and Yin YeWang.

I predict Murong Bo will kill ZWJ.

ZWJ would have eventually beaten the 3 shaolin monks with his superior inner power. 1 monk was having the advantage vs Yang Xiao and Yin TianZheng, so 3 monks should be able to beat 4 guardian lords and 2 protectors in a very long fight. If I remember correctly, YDT had the advantage 1v1 vs 1 monk. And that was before YDT learned the 4th QKDNY level. So adding full strength YDT to the 3 monks, and someone like ZWJ would definitely lose.

BUT, pre-Little Formless Gong JMZ could beat 6 Dali monks of Duan ZhengMing's caliber. After learning XWTG, needless to say that JMZ would be much stronger.

6 Dali monks using the 6MSJ formation should be at least equal to the 3 elder shaolin monks Demon Subduing formation. JMZ could already beat the 6 monks, then 3 years later he became even stronger. So I think
pre=XWTG JMZ > the 3 monk formation > 4 guardians + 2 protectors
XWTG JMZ should at least = 4 guardians + 2 protectors + YDT

I heard people say often times that Murong Fu = his 4 servants, and that 1 servant = 1 beggar clan elder. Well if one flag carrier equals 1 beggar clan elder, Murong Fu is worth 4 flag carriers. Thus he would lose vs 5 flag carriers + Yin Yewang.

I voted that the Murongs and JMZ would win, but now I think the Ming cult will win, because the 5 flag carriers + Yin Yewang can beat Murong Fu must faster than Murong Bo can beat ZWJ. Then victorious the flag carriers will gang up on Murong Bo, then what's left of the 5 flags + Yin will tip the stalemate of JMZ's fight in favor of the Ming cult.

[LuNaR]

as bad a choker as ZWJ is, ming cult fighters win here. agree with pj's assessment

[flamer]

I think using complicated measurements for JMZ is a bit excessive. Putting him at the level of MRB would be enough because of JMZ at Shaolin. I don't think all the monks are of Duan Zhenming caliber at Celestial Dragon Temple btw.

I doubt the Murongs and JMZ can win this.

or else the REAL MAN will walk into the hall and destroy whats left of Murongs/JMZ. Do it for Guo Xiang.

[CC]

We should replace JMZ with UNDEAD Murong Longcheng to make it an all family team but since that was not the question asked.....

If the MRB team was smart, MRB would fire off his legendary 8 zhang Canhe Zhi and JMZ would fire off his Nian Hua Zhi or Huo Yan Dao while Zhang Wuji was still shouting, that way, 4 or 6 of the lower ranked Ming fighters like Yin Yewang or even one of the Guardian Lords might get KO'ed before the fight starts.

Either way, it'll be a lovely fight to watch because we have never witnessed MRB going all out before.

[Exodus]

Ming cult loses badly

[augster123]

thanks for the compliment wellesley. nice analysis as well...although i don't necessarily agree with ZWJ being a shade bit inferior to MRB/JMZ in terms of internal energy. it may be so, if either of those 2, got a hold of Shaolin's Tendon Altering Sutra (YJJ). because aside from that, in terms of internal energy cultivation, i'd even place 9 Yang > 9 Yin. not too sure about Little Formless Gong (XWTG), but i do recall reading that JMZ only completed around 7/8 of it. but in terms of ruthlessness and experience, i totally agree. MRB+JMZ > ZWJ in that aspect.

i don't think all 6 of the TianLong monks, at the time, were at DZM's level nor were they as good a team as the 3 "Du" divine monks.

lol. flamer, you just have to bring up Real Man Zhang into this team war eh?
"Lackey#1, hurry up and flash the Tao symbol!" Zhang Wuji urgently commanded, amidst the ferocious Team War. Moments later, a set of strong fireworks lighted up the night sky, brightly projecting a huge Tao symbol that lasted for a long time. It was only in times of emergency, that the symbol was to be used. An old Taoist, carrying his keen blade, the "Real Martial" Sword, flied towards Brightness Peak at ever-increasing speeds. "Good child Wuji needs my help!"

[LuNaR]

according to you guys, most of u say ZWJ = YG = GJ and some say he is even better than YG or GJ. try putting that in perspective. theres no way JMZ/MRB > YG or GJ

[CC]

according to you guys, most of u say ZWJ = YG = GJ and some say he is even better than YG or GJ. try putting that in perspective. theres no way JMZ/MRB > YG or GJ

I respectfully disagree! Murong "80 Foot LDA" Bo is at least as good as YG/GJ IMHO.

[Ren Wo Xing]

Huh? Most people here think that JMZ/MRB are on par with Xiao Feng, who has won virtually every single poll placing him in a direct matchup against YG or GJ. I agree with CC.

[Extremer88]

Martial Arts aside, its 14 against 3 men.

There's a number disadvantage for MRB and co., as each of them will have to handle on average at least 4 men.

It's plausible that in this matchup, the weaker MRF will take on 4 people, while both MRB and JMZ fight against 5 each.

[flamer]

lol. flamer, you just have to bring up Real Man Zhang into this team war eh?
"Lackey#1, hurry up and flash the Tao symbol!" Zhang Wuji urgently commanded, amidst the ferocious Team War. Moments later, a set of strong fireworks lighted up the night sky, brightly projecting a huge Tao symbol that lasted for a long time. It was only in times of emergency, that the symbol was to be used. An old Taoist, carrying his keen blade, the "Real Martial" Sword, flied towards Brightness Peak at ever-increasing speeds. "Good child Wuji needs my help!"

In that case, I confidently say that the remains of MRB+JMZ+MRF will not be found. Because Ming Cult will rip them to infinite pieces after ZWJ+Z3F are done with them.

I think we need a section of how Z3F demolishes the fake-monk JMZ lol. Something to the effect of Sweeper Monk would be reasonable. *flick* wtf what happened to my finger skill? ITS NOT WORKING!

[Extremer88]

The Ming Cult fighters have home advantage, so maybe it will be a huge morale booster plus terrain-familiarity advantage to them.

[flamer]

Martial Arts aside, its 14 against 3 men.

There's a number disadvantage for MRB and co., as each of them will have to handle on average at least 4 men.

It's plausible that in this matchup, the weaker MRF will take on 4 people, while both MRB and JMZ fight against 5 each.

I say

ZWJ vs MRB

2 Guardians+4 Lords+YDT vs JMZ

Wanderers+YYW vs MRF

I don't think MRF can beat 5 Wanderers+YYW and I don't think JMZ can take on YDT+Lords+Guardians.

I also think ZWJ can hold with MRB long enough for his team to finish up JMZ+MRF.

[Extremer88]

ZWJ vs MRB.

Hard to separate them, man. MRB is a more experienced fighter with a more agressive mentality though.

2 Guardians+4 Lords+YDT vs JMZ.

I'm not very sure about Yang Dingtian's fighting abilities, but the 7 of them will have to be extremely well-organised and in superb form to force JMZ into a draw.

It's possible to win but looks rather gloomy.

Wanderers+YYW vs MRF.

On the contrary, I believe the Wanderers and Yin Yewang will have no chance at all. Murong Fu seems to be good enough for them. I always felt the Wanderers were crappy fighters, especially up against a reasonable DGSD fighter.

[flamer]

Hard to separate them, man. MRB is a more experienced fighter with a more agressive mentality though.



I'm not very sure about Yang Dingtian's fighting abilities, but the 7 of them will have to be extremely well-organised and in superb form to force JMZ into a draw.

It's possible to win but looks rather gloomy.



On the contrary, I believe the Wanderers and Yin Yewang will have no chance at all. Murong Fu seems to be good enough for them. I always felt the Wanderers were crappy fighters, especially up against a reasonable DGSD fighter.

Leave the ZWJ vs MRB for now.

YDT would be >1 Du Monk. 6 Lords+Guardians=Great definitely. They can WIN this.

5 Wanderers together can sub for a Lord and with YYW, its say 1.7 Lords. Or it will be like MRF vs 8-9 Southern Sea Crocodile Deities. They will at least fight for a draw long enough for 6 Lords/Guardians+YDT to mop up JMZ. Which IMO is a definite win.

[Extremer88]

YDT would be >1 Du Monk.

YDT passed away early, so it's hard to say whether he's better than 1 Du Generation Monk.

6 Lords+Guardians=Great definitely. They can WIN this.

Maybe, but I'm not entirely convinced yet.

[Extremer88]

I heard people say often times that Murong Fu = his 4 servants, and that 1 servant = 1 beggar clan elder. Well if one flag carrier equals 1 beggar clan elder, Murong Fu is worth 4 flag carriers. Thus he would lose vs 5 flag carriers + Yin Yewang.

There's no Ming Cult Flag Carriers included in this fight. Do you meant the five Wanderers?

Plus the Beggar Clan Elder that you mentioned - do you meant the ones in DGSD? If so, then I don't think 1 flag carrier = 1 DGSD beggar clan elder.

Likewise, I also don't feel that 1 wanderer = 1 DGSD beggar clan elder.