Deun Yu vs. Deun Yin Hing

[Ken Cheng]

After leeching Jiumozhi, Duan Yu acquired a better auto protect that might be able to shrug off Duan Yanqing. Obviously, if his 6MSJ is working, Duan Yanqing will be toast. But if it doesn't work, which is 50% of the chance, then Duan Yu might be in trouble, b/c he did not learn martial arts properly like Xuzhu. Whereas Xuzhu with low technique can comfortably take on someone with 1/4 os his internal energy (JMZ), I don't think the same can be said about Duan "never learned the technique" Yu.

Pretty much my thoughts. Deun Yu is very dangerous against enemies who don't know what to expect from him, but if a reasonably powerful and experienced martial artist is familiar with his abilities and limitations, I think that martial artist can exploit that to defeat him.

[Doc Kwok]

During Deun Yin Hing's first attempt to manipulate Deun Yu and Wong Yu Yin into what everybody at the time believed would have been an incestuous marriage, Deun Yin Hing and Deun Jing Tsun fought. Naturally, Deun Jing Tsun was overwhelmed, and was going to be even *more* overwhelmed as Divine Crocodile and Wan Chung Hok showed up to back up their "Big Brother." Deun Yu then showed up, however, blasted Deun Yin Hing with his 6 Mak Divine Swords even as Yin Hing and Jing Tsun were deadlocked in a 1 Yeung Finger Technique duel, and Yin Hing was so badly injured that he had to abandon the fight. Divine Crocodile and Wan Chung Hok had seen enough, knew they were no match for Deun Yu and Deun Jing Tsun, and so picked up the wounded Deun Yin Hing and got the hell away from the scene.

This is completely made up by TVB. In the novel, Duan Zhengchun was captured by Duan Yanqing while Duan Yu was captured by Madame Wong in two separate events. There wasn't any fighting between the three at that point in the novel at all.

After capturing DZC, DYQ was deathly afraid of accidently bumping into DY on the road, thinking he would surely be doomed if that happened. He reckoned that his only chance would be to use DZC as a hostage, but even then he still didn't think he stood much of a chance. This was after he watched Duan Yu screw up repeatedly at Shaolin, getting punched in the face, kicked to the ground, falling flat on his face, nearly getting stabbed twice etc. So according to DYQ's own opinion, he would lose very badly against DY.

[athlee]

At end of DGSD, DY was able to fight, only his BMSG and 6MSJ was not working properly, the former because he only learn part of it and the latter because JY likes the idea despite saying DY learn from the monks to control his qi after he ascended the throne.

His internal energy was inferior only to XZ and Sweeper and the next closest of XF, XYS and MRB was far away (before he absorbed JMZ he was already beyond them).

My take of a fair fight between DY and DYH, aka without distractions, is likely to be a massacre by DY.

[Ken Cheng]

This is completely made up by TVB. In the novel, Duan Zhengchun was captured by Duan Yanqing while Duan Yu was captured by Madame Wong in two separate events. There wasn't any fighting between the three at that point in the novel at all.

After capturing DZC, DYQ was deathly afraid of accidently bumping into DY on the road, thinking he would surely be doomed if that happened. He reckoned that his only chance would be to use DZC as a hostage, but even then he still didn't think he stood much of a chance. This was after he watched Duan Yu screw up repeatedly at Shaolin, getting punched in the face, kicked to the ground, falling flat on his face, nearly getting stabbed twice etc. So according to DYQ's own opinion, he would lose very badly against DY.

One thing I wish that the SFX people at TVB (or any other production company) had done was to use different SFX for 6 Mak Divine Swords than they did for 1 Yeung Finger Technique. As it was, TVB used the exact same kind of SFX for 6 Mak as they did for plain old 1 Yeung. From the visuals alone, there was no way to tell that Deun Yu's 6 Mak Divine Swords was far more powerful than Deun Yin Hing or Deun Jing Tsun's 1 Yeung Finger Technique. It all looked the same.

It makes it difficult to process how a wimpy guy who doesn't really know how to fight, but has a powerful finger beam would lose to a guy who fights VERY well and has the "same" kind of finger beam.