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Thread: Nirvana in Fire 《琅琊榜》 - Hu Ge, Liu Tao, Chen Long, Wang Kai

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    Hahaha, thanks Yanfeng! I haven't read the other NIF fanfictions, but I will definitely do that. Still owe a friend an MV first, then I can indulge myself. I do want to read that Jingyan/Nihuang possibility...

    Also something about Meng Zhi would be great cos I just root for this guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icha Parvati View Post
    By the way, I read somewhere here that someone (forgot which poster, sorry...) commented that Mei Changsu's tactical ability was comparable to Chu Liuxiang (Chor Lau Heung). Well, I was thinking about it too before I read that comment (of which link I lost, again apologies). Hence I wrote a fan-fiction, a cross-over between the NIF 2015 and Chor Lau Heung 1984 (with Michael Miu and Barbara Yung).

    http://riverandlakerealm.blogspot.co...4-nirvana.html
    Found the conversations I saw earlier re: Mei Changsu and Chor Lau Heung/Chu Liuxiang. Pages 47-48:

    Quote Originally Posted by IMOmusings View Post
    I think the only Chinese series that would be on par with LYB in terms of scheming and intelligence is Chor Leu Heung...I probably have that romanisation wrong, but in Viet it's So Luu Huong. And considering how old that series is...indicates just how much of a drought fans of CDrama are experiencing T_T
    Quote Originally Posted by natuschan View Post
    Which version of Chor Lau Heung are you talking about? The one in the 1970s or 1980s with Miu Kiu Wai? because if you're talking about the most recent versions in the 2000s, well I can agree with you ^_^;
    I never saw other versions of CLH/CLX, but I really think the 1984 CLH was on par with Mei Changsu's intelligence and tactical abilities. Of course, the version I saw had not nearly as much blood as Langya Bang, but given that I just re-watched the CLH series last year and when I saw Langya Bang I thought of that 1984 series, I think they are quite on par in terms of brain and strategy.

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    Icha Parvati- there's loads of Chinese-language fanfic, but some English-language ones as well, many of which you can find at Archive of Our Own:
    http://archiveofourown.org/tags/%E7%...e%20(TV)/works

    I'd particularly point out that there's a translation of the hit Chinese Jing/Su fic "In Time, Once Again" there, as well as our own Outsanity's great work: http://archiveofourown.org/users/Syc...ds/Sychronergy

    Plus I'd pitch a few Shu/Huang ones of mine
    http://archiveofourown.org/works/6113767
    http://archiveofourown.org/works/5877070

    But again if you read in mandarin, there are at least hundreds if not thousands of NIF fanfics across the various posting sites (lofter and tieba being the two I've most frequented)

    Enjoy!

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    Yanfeng, thanks a lot for the links. I don't understand Mandarin other than through patchy word-to-word translations online... so I will stick with the English versions.

    I read your two fics just now, love them! Particularly the "Subtle" one... totally love it! We need more merry fanfics like that for LYB.

    Also, I noticed some punctuation errors for your "The Things We Keep". If you don't mind me... allow me:

    her disobedient heart will have its say.
    It should be "its say" instead of "it's say" for the former refers to possession.

    As well as "mocking the passage of time with it's celebration" -- it should be "its celebration", for it's (it is) again a possession.

    Other than that, it was a moving piece...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icha Parvati View Post
    Yanfeng, thanks a lot for the links. I don't understand Mandarin other than through patchy word-to-word translations online... so I will stick with the English versions.

    I read your two fics just now, love them! Particularly the "Subtle" one... totally love it! We need more merry fanfics like that for LYB.

    Also, I noticed some punctuation errors for your "The Things We Keep". If you don't mind me... allow me:



    It should be "its say" instead of "it's say" for the former refers to possession.

    As well as "mocking the passage of time with it's celebration" -- it should be "its celebration", for it's (it is) again a possession.

    Other than that, it was a moving piece...
    Hey Icha Parvati- edits done! ) Thanks for the feedback- it's very precious to me ... and if you're looking to be beta-reader I'd love to recruit you to the role!

    "The Things We Keep" is actually loosely adapted from a scene in a Chinese fanfiction (Xing Xing Zhong Xing Xing) which is incredibly poetic- I cried more from that fanfiction than I did from the actual drama (as did others at this forum who aren't even Shu-Huang fans.)

    On a happier note, here's another "merry" LYP fanfic I'll shamelessly plug for: http://archiveofourown.org/works/5900665

    On Micheal Mui, I see that he's coming back for Legend of the Condor Heroes 2017- which is very exciting. I might watch that just to catch a glimpse of him. I haven't watched much of HK drama in the last 10 years- anything worth watching of his lately?

    Finally, don't forget to share your MV here... we don't get as many MV-makers, although on those same c-fanfic sites, it's at least as common as prose and some are very creative.

    If you like Jing-Huang, there are a few which mix up LYB cuts with some from the recent modern drama Ode to Joy (where Liu Tao and Wang Kai's characters get some scenes together, although they're not a couple) so that it's implied Jingyan and Nihuang get together in another life. (I'll dig for some if you're interested to post links here.)

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    Hi Yanfeng, thanks a lot for the other link.

    Yeah, I'm also leaning towards Jing/Huang, but IMO it should be done only years and years after Lin Shu's death. But yes, fire away, provide me links and I will read them in my spare time!

    Thanks for the offer of beta and MV. I assume the NIF MV you're talking about? Cos I have many Barbara/Michael MVs, but no NIF MV. I did think of making one of Mei/Huang MV, but I want to finish some posts on LOCH 2017 and another Michael/Barbara MV first...

    I will post the NIF MV if ever I get to that. Might need a month or so before I have time to do that.

    Re: the Beta, since I'm manning (womaning?) the desk of my own jianghu blog, i might not have time for that. I'd love to, but I don't think I will do justice. But i will come every now and then and provide you feedback in case there's any glaring grammatical or sentence plot gaps. Will PM you for the feedback if I find any (but I'm no native speaker myself, so I'm not prone to mistakes). Thanks again for the offer tho! ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanfeng View Post
    On a happier note, here's another "merry" LYP fanfic I'll shamelessly plug for: http://archiveofourown.org/works/5900665
    LOVE IT!! LOL, Lin Chen and Fei Liu can be sooo cute!!!

    After another pause, Feiliu obediently claps a few times because Shu Gege says its polite.
    Gold!

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    Thanks Icha-Pavarti, sweet of you to think so!

    Meanwhile, here's the links to a bunch of Jing-huang (or Yan-Huang) MV links to your request- I haven't screened them myself, so I'm afraid they might vary on quality- have fun looking them over!

    click to show/hide spoilers
    【靖凰】【脑洞剧情向】醉梦之子于归:关于靖王妃和铁血帝后的故事(HE 结局甜) UP主: 菁裳
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3314606

    【琅琊榜】【靖凰】《一直很安静》第三章 另一个反转(P2新增片尾彩蛋) UP主: 坚果核桃仁
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3335352

    靖凰《一直很安静》 另一重过往 UP主: 坚果核桃仁 http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3213721

    【琅琊榜】【靖王x霓凰】爱殇(BE慎入) UP主: 酸菜仙鱼 http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3294424

    【你眼前的人】【靖凰】【霓凰&靖王】 UP主: 张小仪 http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3294234

    靖凰《一直很安静》续 另一番心境 UP主: 坚果核桃仁 http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3237362

    靖凰《菁华浮梦》 另一个时空 另一段故事 UP主: 坚果核桃仁
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3289040

    【靖凰】三生三世之此去经年你在心上(be慎入) UP主: 霓凰郡主老缠粉
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3325329

    【琅琊榜】靖王x霓凰 | 靖凰大雨将至(ooc慎入) UP主: Matcha豆腐②
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3135814

    【靖凰】【琅琊榜】缘尽世间HE UP主: 阿伊伊伊伊Lin http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3247540

    【靖凰】坐拥河山,只为你安【纯糖】 UP主: 霓凰郡主老缠粉
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3270439

    【琅琊榜】【靖王霓凰】 惊鸿一面 UP主: 十六岁的番茄少女 http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3303365

    【靖王萧景琰X郡主穆霓凰】你是我的三寸天堂(BE慎入) UP主: 霓凰郡主老缠粉
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3265499

    【琅琊榜】【靖王x霓凰】倾尽天下 (BE慎入) UP主: 酸菜仙鱼
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3125409

    【琅琊榜】【靖王x霓凰】参商(BE慎入) UP主: 酸菜仙鱼
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3217241

    【短】
    【霓凰萧景琰】郡主靖王--浩瀚>
    http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/VcDXjcJZZ1k/

    【靖凰】白虹贯日【1分15秒小短片】 UP主: 雨娘轻功 http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3307187

    【酸菜仙鱼专场】
    【琅琊榜】【靖王x霓凰】上邪 (BE慎入) UP主: 酸菜仙鱼
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3147975

    【琅琊榜】【靖王x霓凰】红颜旧(BE慎入) UP主: 酸菜仙鱼
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3162156

    【琅琊榜】【靖王x霓凰】芊芊(BE慎入) UP主: 酸菜仙鱼
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3324958

    【第一个】
    【琅琊榜】【靖王萧景琰 x 霓凰郡主】烟花易冷 UP主: JForz
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3088203

    【靖霓】 诀别诗 UP主: 酱肉大包
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3238584

    【不纯】
    相思十诫穆霓凰萧景琰中心向
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3309466

    【主蔺凰副靖凰】此生不换系列(已出三) UP主: 霓凰郡主老缠粉 http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3284899

    【苏靖凰】三角恋情-我们的纪念 UP主: 阿衫阿衫
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3050010

    【琅琊榜】BGM兼容性测试 UP主: M靖王妃胖莲M http://www.bilibili.com/video/av2964647

    【暂未完结】

    【靖凰】三生三世之落花流水 UP主: 霓凰郡主老缠粉 http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3318396

    【靖凰】【脑洞剧情向】醉梦(坑ing,应该是HE) UP主: 菁裳
    http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3314606



    And yes please on the NIF MV!
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    Thanks a lot for the links!

    I haven't got time to watch them all, but the first link has a good story. The first time I saw Jingyan rescuing Nihuang from Consort Yue's plan and saw them hugging (Jing/Huang i mean), i started to like them.

    But then again, LS/NH was a beautiful, tho bitter sweet story, so I'm still for LS/NH, and then a very slow process for JingHuang years after LS' passing, if any.

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    Hey all, I'm back to recommend another fanfic (albeit in mandarin again )

    大红猩猩毡's 凤凰于飞 is a very challenging fanfic to read, but the plot is steeped in politics, incredibly creative and intriguing. Best of all Lin Shu, Consort Jing, and Nihuang are given dramatically powerful roles which is very rare in fanfiction. (Shu-Huang lovers may be disappointed since although this is technically a Shu-Huang, it is just as much Jing-Huang and many other non-romantic pairings.)

    Huge spoilers below, so I advise those who plan to read this to skip and just give the fic a try!

    click to show/hide spoilers
    After Meiling, Nihuang investigates and figures out what happened and 1) she realizes that the Emperor is angling to destroy the Mu's if she doesn't do something first 2) she wants to avenge the Chiyan army by killing the Emperor.

    With that ambitious goal in mind she, indirectly, sets herself up to marry the Emperor, giving the Emperor a false sense of controlling the Mu's using Nihuang as his 'hostage'. She gets herself pregnant with Jingyan's child, so as to fool the Emperor - apparently not as reproductive as he used to be?- into trusting her, and then slowly poisoning the Emperor... and her own self as well, since there is no other way the paranoid Emperor will eat the food if she doesn't first.

    She plans to die before herself or her child is born and there is a moving scene between her and Consort Jing when she tells the Consort that she is sorry to do this to her first grandchild, but that Jingyan will surely give Consort Jing many more grandchildren.

    Then, of course, Mei Changsu appears. And there are multiple plots and counter-plots involving murders and attempted/misguided murders (as the other consorts and even the Empress are envious of Nihuang's high position in the court.) Still work-in-progress so I can't tell you how it will end but I suspect, given Nihuang is badly poisoned at this point and even MCS seems helpless to stop her, that it will end well in the sense that Nihuang will triumph, but probably also die.


    The spoiler-free summary is that in here Nihuang plays politics with the best of them (e.g., Xie Yu) and so does Mei Changsu... it's all a little hard to understand for a borderline illiterate like me, but what I do understand is super cool!
    Recommended!

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    hey all, just gonna advertise a singing contest we doing here at spcnet, its gonna be fun and u should join in!! more details here http://www.spcnet.tv/forums/showthre...66#post1127566

    it's a lot of fun!!!

    ps: what new series is liu tao doing? i think i became a fan of hers after this series

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    I think she's now doing a series as Liu Bei's wife during the... one of those pre-Tang turmoil eras... sorry can't be more of a help, but I hope she's a badass too there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icha Parvati View Post
    I think she's now doing a series as Liu Bei's wife during the... one of those pre-Tang turmoil eras... sorry can't be more of a help, but I hope she's a badass too there!
    ah i dont like those kinda historical dramas... o well

    participate in spcnet idol i know u can sing hahaha

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    hahaha! I clicked to your link, Lunar, and tho it's interesting, I think I make better MVs than singing. I can sing, but not very high pitch these days... ^_^ I tried to sing Danny Chan's "Ripples" yesterday, has lots of high notes on it, and I struggled. Geez, to think a decade ago I could easily reach those notes...

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    Ok, another update on 大红猩猩毡's 凤凰于飞 fanfiction. Spoilers

    click to show/hide spoilers
    This is the one where for revenge and justice, Nihuang goes after the Emperor by first marrying him and then planning poisoned kamikaze tactics. Here Mei Changsu appears and together he and Nihuang try to thwart Princess Linglong's schemes.

    Writer wrote a "off fanfic" i.e., not within the plot, usually ridiculous scene just for fun:
    Pregnant Nihuang: "So, between the talented Prince Yu, favored Prince Xian and righteous Prince Jing, who will you choose."
    MCS: "I choose you."

    Nihuang as the Empress Dowager behind an infant's (in the story it is Jingyan's son) throne so she takes the decisions with MCS's support and have the country defended by Jingyan? If only Liang were so lucky...


    For readers who are interested in Chinese fanfics, registering on lofter takes an email address but isn't too difficult and there are at least a half dozen Nihuang-Lin Shu fanfic chapters posted every single day even now, and I estimate there are at least three times as many for Jingyan-Lin Shu and then there's the other ships. This adds up (after all these months) to thousands if not tens of thousands of NIF fanfics. I can't even keep up with reading the titles!

    Start with a search of your ship of choice, set the filter to "榜单" and you'll get the greatest hits of all time, set it to "热门" and you'll get the hottest ones of the moment, set it to "最新" and you'll just get the latest.

    So for Nihuang-LinShu using the first setting I mentioned gets you a lot of "行行重行行" (my fav Lin Shu-Nihuang fic ever)- even if your mandarin is as awful as mine is, it's totally worth going to dig in there if you like fanfiction!

    Back on English fanfics on Archive of Our Own, "In Time, Once Again" translation is done and a group is starting transltion of the novel as well, so go check them out! (Plus I've gotten a few chapters into an alternate history Nihuang-travels-back-in-time to try to fix things fic ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanfeng View Post

    Like the blogger, I don't see how Miyue beat out NIF for "Best Drama" though....
    I thought the main character didn't make a lot of sense, but the drama itself (albeit slow and droning) was unbelievably complex, extremely immersive. It had a lot of memorable quotes, historical references & very clever word-plays. x:

    That being said, hi again everyone. Haven't been here for 2 months or so, since I got into video-gaming and switched jobs, but.... I'll be writing again and everything, maybe c:

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    Good to see NIF is still very active here
    ~~~

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    Yay! Welcome back Outsanity and Xiaodan... also great news Outsanity that the fanfics might pick up again!

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    oh my goodness....this thread is still so strong @_@

    Anyone heard 100% confirmation of any other actors/actresses returning for season 2?

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    Hey IMOmusings, welcome back! Sadly other than there is a Season 2 I haven't heard anything... not even whether there will be recurring actors/actresses or characters.

    I was quite entertained by watching Ode to Joy since so many of the NIF actors/actresses recurred there though... finding out that "Eunurch Zhao" was married to "Consort Jing" was a particularly gob-smacking moment.

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