Mo Lit and the Ngor Mei Sect

[Ken Cheng]

On their way to the Ming Cult's headquarters at Gwong Ming Peak, Mit Jeut See Tai and her Ngor Mei Sect followers spent a night at the residence of Mo Lit and his family, and were on hand to support the Mos when Yan Lei murdered Chu 9 Jen.

Mo Lit greeted Mit Jeut cordially according to proper wulin rules of prosperity, and Mit Jeut, for her part, was a gracious guest. Still, it must have dawned upon both Mo Lit and Mit Jeut that their ancestors/predecessors had been *very* close. Mo Lit, after all, was a descendant of Mo 3 Tung and Mo Sau Man (the younger of the Mo Brothers), who had been very close to the Gwok Family during ROCH times, including Gwok Seung (Mo Sau Man's martial younger sister). That being the case, it's curious that neither side acknowledged their old ties, though both sides would be aware of those ties.

[tape]

Err do you know the friends of your ancestors from 100 years ago?

[Mandred Skavenslayer]

I would say MJ probably viewed the Mo's as poor relatives given how obscure they became.

[tape]

Guo Xiang was likely middle aged when she found Emei. It's not like she ever held the Wu brothers in high regards considering how she viewed Yang Guo. Why in the world would she mention she once had some martial brothers when she was 15-20 ?

[Ken Cheng]

Err do you know the friends of your ancestors from 100 years ago?

THESE people would, because their family histories were so famous (and they were so proud of them). Every knowledgeable person in the wulin of the time knew that the Ngor Mei Sect was founded by Gwok Seung, the daughter of Gwok Jing. The Mos were also very proud of the fact that their ancestors were Mo 3 Tung and Mo Sau Mun, who had fought alongside Gwok Jing at Seung Yeung for many years. None of this was a secret to any of the parties involved. It rated at least a mention.

[tape]

THESE people would, because their family histories were so famous (and they were so proud of them). Every knowledgeable person in the wulin of the time knew that the Ngor Mei Sect was founded by Gwok Seung, the daughter of Gwok Jing. The Mos were also very proud of the fact that their ancestors were Mo 3 Tung and Mo Sau Mun, who had fought alongside Gwok Jing at Seung Yeung for many years. None of this was a secret to any of the parties involved. It rated at least a mention.

I can't think of a single person that would (or maybe the correct word is should) hold Wu Santong or his sons in high regard except their direct descendants. Many people fought at Xiang Yang, and the Wus weren't particularly notable. Even with what fame they had, 100 years later, small fries like them would not be remembered. Mentioning that to Miejue would be quite embarrassing when she doesn't know who in the world you're talking about.

[pannonian]

I can't think of a single person that would (or maybe the correct word is should) hold Wu Santong or his sons in high regard except their direct descendants. Many people fought at Xiang Yang, and the Wus weren't particularly notable. Even with what fame they had, 100 years later, small fries like them would not be remembered. Mentioning that to Miejue would be quite embarrassing when she doesn't know who in the world you're talking about.

Their continuation of Yi Yang Zhi should gain them some respect though, as it's one of the elite arts that bears comparison with any other top level art in wulin.

[Mandred Skavenslayer]

Their continuation of Yi Yang Zhi should gain them some respect though, as it's one of the elite arts that bears comparison with any other top level art in wulin.

What happened to the arts of the 5 Greats?
I understand Toad Stance went extinct but how come Dragon Palm and 1 Yang Finger become so weak in the period?

[Ken Cheng]

What happened to the arts of the 5 Greats?
I understand Toad Stance went extinct but how come Dragon Palm and 1 Yang Finger become so weak in the period?

No good practitioners. Shih For Lung and the Mos/Chus of the HSDS era did not have the requisite talent to use these skills anywhere near their full potential.

[Ken Cheng]

Their continuation of Yi Yang Zhi should gain them some respect though, as it's one of the elite arts that bears comparison with any other top level art in wulin.

Moreover, though not top-level martial artists, the Mos of the ROCH era were not afterthoughts to the Gwok Family. They were friends and allies for *decades*. Gwok Jing raised and taught Mo 3 Tung's sons as if they were his own, and they assisted Gwok Jing in his fights against the Mongols for years. The Gwok and Mo families likely held each other in esteem, and though diluted through the passage of time, I can't imagine it to have dissipated so completely by the time of HSDS that neither Mo Lit nor Mit Jeut even thought about it. These kinds of connections had a great deal of mileage in the wulin world.

[tape]

Miejue is not part of the Guo family though. She's just the student of a student of Guo Xiang. I'd think it's more likely than not that she isn't well acquainted with minor details of her master's master's personal relationships, especially when Guo Xiang is probably the one who had least contact with the Wu brothers due to her age. It's not impossible that she knows them, but I don't think their relationship is something that needs to be acknowledged.

[CFT]

In comparison the friendship between Zhang Sanfeng and Guo Xiang is well recognized. The friendship between Wudang and Emei has a living link through Z3F, whereas the tenuous link between Emei and the Wu family has long been broken.