One more time: DFBB

[rabadi]

I have not read the SOD novel (well, I started reading Lanny Lin's translation just yesterday, and am still just at chapter 2 volume 1 ), so I myself cannot give any opinion. Like Temujin said on the other thread, there are two groups of people, one saying that DFBB was not that good/powerful, while the other saying that DFBB was even better than the Condor Trilogy Greats. The other day a few months ago actually a similar thread was raised and the later group had more supporters. Anyway, let's settle this one more time. How do you guys think of DFBB, better than the Condor Trilogy Greats or just about the same? How was he compared to fighters in DGSD era?

[rabadi]

We can probably also analyze individuals who battled DFDD together: LHC, RWX, XWT, and RYY. How good were they individually?

[superboy]

I don't think that DFBB is on the level of fighters like XF. And I think DY's 6MSJ must be designed purposely to cut all the threads and needles of DFBB.

[PJ]

Clearly, Dongfang Bubai is on the same league as the Sweeper Monk. I mean the way he played RWX, LHC etc was comparable to how the janitor whacked MRB, XYS etc - less impressive yes, but continue reading. And obviously RWX was superior to MRB because even RWX's servant could wipe away words as easy as Xiao Feng did. So there's no reason to think DFBB is lower than Sweeper Monk.

[TaiHan]

I agree with PJ
The shaolin abbot of SOD at that time can write on a wooden pole with ease. Also there is a low possiblity that 1Deng can write on a piece of wood.

[Ren Wo Xing]

I think PJ was being sarcastic....

[superboy]

Haha, I almost fell for the sarcasum too. Being difficult for Yi Deng to right on wood is only the opinion of QQJ. He is of no place to judge with his limited knowledge on Yi Deng's ability after not seeing him for decades.

[Candide]

Originally posted by superboy
Being difficult for Yi Deng to right on wood is only the opinion of QQJ. He is of no place to judge with his limited knowledge on Yi Deng's ability after not seeing him for decades.

Qiu Chu Ji said that when GJ was looking at the poems carved onto a stone wall. It's pretty much impossible for Yideng to do that, that's what Qiu said. I don't recall anything he said about Yideng carving into wood with his finger. That would be child's play for Yideng. In LOCH, a young GJ with much lower inner energy than Yideng's could knock down dozens of big trees with his 18 Dragon Palms only.

Back on topic.

To me, DFBB was like a Trilogy's Great somehow reborn in the time of XAJH.

[superboy]

I think that QCJ said that it will be difficult to even carve on wood, not specifically on Yi Deng. But it sort of give me the impression that he was underestimating Yi Deng.

[Zhang San Feng]

no i m pretty sure yi deng cant carve on wood, his style just doesnt allow him to, he can do many short bursts but not carve. the shaolin abbot could cos he had yi zhi chan (one fingered zen) or so i believe considering it is one of the 72 skills.

and dfbb can never compare to the greats, i mean dfbb relies on needles to kill, yi deng can kill with one finger and not even making contact. xl18z and toad stance are very powerful palm strikes that no one in sod could face, also theres hys's pebble flicking...considering that dfbb's competition was ony rather weak and none could stand a fight with the greats i trully doubt dfbb stands a chance

[Candide]

Originally posted by Zhang San Feng
no i m pretty sure yi deng cant carve on wood, his style just doesnt allow him to, he can do many short bursts but not carve. the shaolin abbot could cos he had yi zhi chan (one fingered zen) or so i believe considering it is one of the 72 skills.

You have a point there. In HSDS, after seeing his 3rd disciple get wounded badly, ZSF talked about the Diamond Finger technique of Shaolin to his other disciples and said that until then he still could not understand why a human finger could have that much power. It implies that ZSF could not do it (leaving fingerprint on a piece of gold) but we all know that ZSF was clearly superior to the Diamond Monks that did it.

So Yideng might not be able to do it either. It isn't important anyway. Like Bruce Lee said: Bricks don't fight back. He might not be able to carve stuff on wood or rock, but he could fight and could kill his opponents

[Zhang San Feng]

yes, but if ur caught asleep...u could end up a cripple for the remainder of ur life...so either way its about the style not the overall.

[TaiHan]

Originally posted by Ren Wo Xing
I think PJ was being sarcastic....

Hey, I'm trying to change the opinion of the public, because it seem that there are many people in here who underestimate the people in SOD

[Candide]

I don't underestimate people in SOD but they aren't as good as what you guys are advertising

yes, but if ur caught asleep...u could end up a cripple for the remainder of ur life...so either way its about the style not the overall.

Your point is moot. If you're caught napping in a fight with any top fighter, you're dead meat. It doesn't matter if it's Shaolin's Diamond Finger, Dali's 1 Yang Finger, Dragon Palms or whatever, if you get hit, you're gonna be seriously injured or die.

[TaiHan]

Originally posted by Candide
I don't underestimate people in SOD but they aren't as good as what you guys are advertising

I know. I was trying to scare the people here that it could be the other way around.lol

[rabadi]

Originally posted by Candide
You have a point there. In HSDS, after seeing his 3rd disciple get wounded badly, ZSF talked about the Diamond Finger technique of Shaolin to his other disciples and said that until then he still could not understand why a human finger could have that much power. It implies that ZSF could not do it (leaving fingerprint on a piece of gold) but we all know that ZSF was clearly superior to the Diamond Monks that did it.

Interesting point I wonder whether by the end of HSDS Z3F still could not perform such a feat.

Anyway, back to the topic, since nobody has yet to make analysis on the individuals (RWX, LHC, XWT, and RYY) , let's look at this from another way. Based on several threads already posted, I think the majority will agree that XF will kick any of the Condor Trilogy's *** any given day. How does DFBB fare against XF then? If DFBB can beat XF, then that means DFBB is better than the Greats, but if DFBB cannot beat XF then he/she might be equal to just slightly better/worse than the Greats. Opinions, anyone?

[rabadi]

Originally posted by rabadi
Based on several threads already posted, I think the majority will agree that XF will kick any of the Condor Trilogy's *** any given day. How does DFBB fare against XF then? If DFBB can beat XF, then that means DFBB is better than the Greats, but if DFBB cannot beat XF then he/she might be equal to just slightly better/worse than the Greats. Opinions, anyone?

Opinions, anyone?

[superboy]

Okay, my humble opinion is DFBB will be dinner for XF, and might have a chance of being around Great level, but i probably not in my opinion.

[CC]

You could kick the Greats in the nuts, but not DFBB.

So score one for DFBB in that department due to immunity from the Monkey Stealing Peach Stance.

[Anonymous]

cc: So score one for DFBB in that department due to immunity from the Monkey Stealing Peach Stance.
--- DFBB is still sensitive there right?
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young LinChuYing also uses needles, then she doesnt when older.