Wuxia style/stance for each wuxia school

[eeyore]

Hi there,

I'm not sure whether this subject has been brought up before. I have a question and hopefully the answer is not too complicated.

Could some one help me list down the wuxia style/stance (rabadi need your help with english translation for 'jurus silat') from each wuxia school (again rabadi 'perguruan silat')?

For instance:
Shaolin School their major style/stance is:
- Shaolin punch ('tinju shaolin' , I know sounds like cocktail drink )

From Kaipang is:
- 18 Dragon Palm Style

From Wudang is:
- Tai Chi stances

It's far from complete, I need your guys help to help me list down for other wuxia school such as ErMei, Choa Chin Bai (not sure how to call this school, I mean the place where Yang Guo was sent to study by Guo Jing), Ming Jiao, Hua Shan, etc. Even the minor school such as Huang YaoShi's, Auwyang Fung's, Dali's, etc.

Thanks in advance.

[- L1n -]

Dali Imperial Family Arts:

Yi Yang Zhi (Solitary Finger) - All future Dali King's must know (except for the exception of Duan Yu from DGSD)


6 Mai Sen Jian (Six Meridian Swords) - Secret Art of the Dali Imperials, it was said by Duan Yu's time no one has mastered it in 100's of yrs.


Ming Jao:

Qian Kun Da Luo Yi

Shaolin:

18 Luohan Quan (18 Luo Han Palm)

Yi Jin Jing

9 Yang Sen Gong ( Yang Manaual)

72 Shaolin Arts

Someother basics (u can figure it out)


Beggar Clan:

Xiang Long 18 Zhang (18 Dragon Subdueing Palms)

Dog Beating Stick Style


Wudang:

Tachi Quan

Tachi Qian


Lin Family:

Bi Xue Jian Fa - (Derived from portions of the Original Kua Wua Bao Die)

Sun and Moon Sect

Xi Xing Da Fa - (Satr Sucking Technique)

Kua Wua Bao Die - (Derived fropm the original Kua Wua Bao Die)


Quan Chen:

Xian Tian Sen Gong

Quan Chen Nei Gong

Arguably could also say (9 Yin Jen Jing)

Xiao Yao Pai

Bei Ming Sen Gong

Ling Bo Wei Bu

Xiao Wu Xiang Gong

Sen sifu

and theres a couple more i can't rember but it was Lin Qiu Shui's art and Tian San tong Laos' Tian San sometyhing omething and there was also this massive one.


I can't be stuffed trying to rember anymore, at elast i contributed lol

[rabadi]

Could some one help me list down the wuxia style/stance (rabadi need your help with english translation for 'jurus silat') from each wuxia school (again rabadi 'perguruan silat')?

Why? My English is not that good Usually I just say "martial art technique" for "jurus silat" and "martial art school" for "perguruan silat". I am sure they are not the exact translation, but I think people will get the message anyway

[eeyore]

Thanks L1n much appreciated.

anyone else can fill the blanks? or my question doesn't make sense? Please...

rabadi: the reason I asked you cause you're the regular here, so I thought you'd be more familiar with the term than me.

[Han Solo]

Eeyore,

Too lazy to post, so cut and paste.

DG9J- Dugu 9 Jian

HL18Palm/HL18Z/XL18Z - Hong Long 18 zhang (Xiang Long 18 )

6MSJ- 6 Mai Shen Jiang (DGSD)

XTJF - Heavy Sword Stage of DGKB.

L/R technique- Technique created by ZBT in that one is able to exhibit two different type of martial arts on different hand. Only three ppl: ZBt, GJ and XLN have learned it.

TS6YZ- Tian Shan 6 Yang Zhang/Palm; soft yang palm of Xiao Yao sect.

Tian Shan Zhe Mei Shou- reputedly able to mimick or adapt to all the best characteristics of all palm techniques. (DGSD)

BMSG- BeiMing ShenGong; one of the finest skills of Xiao Yao Sect, DY practices this technique which enables users to absorb enemy's inner power and use it as their own. (DGSD)

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There's a thread with links to the Shaolin supreme arts floating around, again too lazy to find it.

Other sects:-

Ancient Tomb- Jade Maiden Sword, + Bee Needle, Ice Needle + ???

Iron Sword Sects:- ???

[eeyore]

in the end of XAJH, LHC can:
- DGQB
- Xing Xing Ta Fa (from RWX, bad pinyin )
- Qing Qin ... (Shaolin stance, bad pinyin again )

more coming....

[Tazzy1972]

more.... more

[Han Solo]

in the end of XAJH, LHC can:
- DGQB
- Xing Xing Ta Fa (from RWX, bad pinyin )
- Qing Qin ... (Shaolin stance, bad pinyin again )

more coming....

Xi Xing Da Fa (XXDF)
Yi Jin Jing (YJJ)

[Ian Liew]

Quanzhen Pai
-----------------
Xian Tian Gong - neigong (the one WCY teaches DZX)

Jin Yan Gong - qinggong (the one MY teaches GJ)

Tian Gong Bei Dou Zhen - formation (the Big Dipper)

Jin Yong Online also classifies the Quanzhen Swordplay into four types, each one better than the previous - Quanzhen Jianfa, Tonggui Jianfa, Chongyang Jianfa, and Yi Jian Hua San Qing, but as to whether these are canon to the novel I don't know.

Kongming Quan - Zhou Botong's "vacant fist" technique


Beggar Clan
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JYO has a ridiculous number of martial arts for Gaibang, of which I only recognise the following:-

Xianglong 18 Zhang (there's also a 'sans 3 palms' version, which is what GJ used for a while.

Dagoupangfa - Dog beating stick

Xiaoyaoyou - what H7G taught HR, also a melee technique, even if it sounds more qinggong-like

Other like the Lianhuazhang, Tongcuishou, Yinshanzhang etc probably came from some of the minor elders.

and if you thought Gaibang was bad...

Shaolin
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refer to this link if you can read chinese:-
http://jy.sehang.net/menpaiwugong/001.htm?

In short:-
Swordplay
Luohan jianfa, Damo jianfa, Fumo jianfa

Sabreplay
Chibidaofa, Xiuluodaofa, Yiumudaofa (JMZ used this against XZ)

Fist/palms
Luohan quan, Fengyun shou, Shaolin changquan, Rulai qianye shou, Longzhao shou, Luohanfohu quan, Qianshourulai Zhang (Fang Zheng vs Ren Woxing) (most of the others probably just appeared in the XZ/JMZ fight), Jiashafumogong (XC used this against JMZ)

Fingers
Dalijinkang zi (poor Wudang heroes got their limbs broken by this one), Yanhuazi, Duoluoyezi, Wushangjiezi (the three fingers skills JMZ used to trade for 6MSJ in Tian Long Zi), Yizi Chen (the one WXB could not learn)

Formations
Shiba Luohan zhen, Jinkang fumo huan (Three Shaolin elders)


Wudang
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Fists
Wudang Changquan, Wudang Mianzhang (Song Yuanqiao vs Eagle King), Taijiquan

Swords
Youyun Jianfa, Shaozhi Youjian (Muo Shenggu vs Eagle King), Taijijian

Qinggong
Tiyunzong (the lightness kungfu Wuji used against Kongwen)

Formations
Zhenwu chizhi zhen (Wudang seven heroes formation)

Neigong
Wudang xinfa, Chunyang Wuji Gong (Zhang Shanfeng's 9yang portion)

Darts
Furong Jinzhen (Zhang Zhaozhong)

Pen
Yitiantulong Bifa (Zhang Chuishan)



I'll post some of the others some other time, these four sects have the most skills in JYO.



Ian

[Tazzy1972]

tat's a lot

[Ian Liew]

The next two sects cover the xiaoyaopai legacy


Lingjiugong (Sacred Vulture Palace)
--------------

Neigong
Xiaoyao xinfa (basic skills for new girls), Bahuangliuheweiwoduzhuangong (TSTL's neigong), Xiaowushanggong (LQS's neigong), Beimingzhenqi (Wuyazi's neigong)

Qinggong
Yueyingwubu (basic qinggong), Jiemeishengong (advanced qinggong)

Melee
Tianshanjiemeishou, Tianshanliuyangzhang (TSTL's skills), Baihongzhang (LQS's skill)

Formation
Xiaoyaowujizhen (girl formation)

Sword
Tianyuqijian (again, I think only the little girls used this one)

Sabre
Ruerdaofa (those girls didn't use sabres, did they?)


Xingshu
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As Dingqunqiu seemed to be the only Xingshu fighter of note, I'll assume all these are his.

Neigong
Xingshuxinfa (basic), Huagongdafa

Qinggong
Xingshushenfa (basic)

Melee
Chousuizhang, Sanyinwugongzhao, Xingshuxiaoyaozhang

Poison
Feixingshu, Fangdufa

Staff
Tianshanzhangfa

[Tazzy1972]

u mean xiaoyao sect has 2 sections??

[Ian Liew]

Nope, I meant that the Xiaoyaopai legacy was carried mainly by two people - Ding Chunqiu and Tianshan Tonglao, and they formed their own sects, Xingshu and Lingjiu... these two sects have Xiaoyaopai martial arts as their base. Su Xinghe's disciples kept a very low profile, while Li Qiushui didn't really have any disciples.

[Tazzy1972]

oh ic thanks

[Ken Cheng]

Li Qiushui didn't really have any disciples.

Wasn't the Hsi Hsia Kingdom's 1 Bun Tong task force basically all trained in Lee Chou Sui's martial arts techniques?

[Ian Liew]

Ook, they were?

I'm probably wrong, then, but given that the task force's most powerful agents were the four evils and Murong Fu in disguise, I guess Li Qiushui probably just gave them basic training, rather than real Xiaoyaopai substance. It would have been scary with a whole task force of people using Xiaowushanggong and Baihongzhang invading the Song.. history would have been rewritten. I can't really see Li Qiushui training people too hard to invade her own country, although she probably didn't really care for patriotic matters.

[Tazzy1972]

wat task force is this?

[rabadi]

Another something from the archive: Shaolin's 72 martial arts

Originally posted by minutemanwayne:

1 Mo zhang - the grinding palm

2 Feng zhang - the windy palm

3 Liuxin zhang - the rocket palm

4 Chuanso zhang - the shuttle palm

5 Tui shan zxang - the palm pushing a mountain

6 Pi chai zhang - the palm cutting wood

7 Chen zhuan zhang - the palm breaking bricks

8 Jin zhusa zhang - the palm with iron grasp

9 Jin gou shou - the iron hook-like arm

10 Wa yan shou - the hand tearing out eyes

11 Tanglang shou - the leg of an Mantodea

12 Bai she xin shou - the hand as accurate as a spittle of the white snake

13 Hei hou tiao shou - the black tiger jumps over a mountain

14 Heihu zhua lian shou - the claws of the black tiger grasping the face

15 She mao shou - the hand like a snake-shaped blade

16 Bai xin shou - the hand of eight wizards

17 Zhin cha zhi - the finger like a gold pin

18 Zhou zhi - the bamboo finger, the finger like a bamboo stick

19 Wu kua hongqian zhi - five fingers like red flower pistil

20 Zhin gong zuan zhi - the piercing finger as hard as a diamond

21 Cuan xin zhi - the finger piercing the heart

22 Tou gu zhi - the finger punching holes in bones

23 Yi zhi jin - the finger as hard as metal

24 Chan si zhou - the elbow with a cord wound on it

25 Go xin zhou - the elbow punching the heart

26 Po yin zhou - the elbow breaking Yin

27 Niu chan tui - the dislocated thigh

28 Pe zhu gan - a bamboo fighting pole

29 Gu shu pan gen - twisted roots of a dry tree

30 Te wu gen di - the iron buffalo ploughs soil

31 Fei mai qiao - the leg flying like a feather

32 Hei xian feng - the black water-spout

33 Tie sazou - the iron broom

34 Hou tiao qian - the monkey jumping over a wall

35 Yian qu shui - the swallow drinks water

36 Chang e bian yue - Sorceress Chan E ascends the moon

37 Tian gou chi yang - the Heaven's Dog eats the Sun

38 Ha mo zu tian - the toad drills the sky

39 Gang jin juan - the diamond fist

40 Shi kai hua - the stone blossoms out like a flower

41 Zuan xin chui - the hammer punching the heart

42 Lu kai hua - the skull blooming out like a flower

43 Duan mu zhuang - to break a wooden stove-couch

44 Ti jie shi - to break a stone with a leg

45 Fang feng Zhen - Zhen releases winds

46 Da shai dai - to strike at a sand bag

47 Fen mu guan - the coffin broken into pieces

48 Dai tie wa - to wear iron hoops

49 Diao shaku - to hang trousers with sand

50 Yue ying jian - to jump over a moon abyss

51 Feng xuan ai - the flight from a steep precipice

52 Go wu ji - to jump over a roof gable

53 Zuo liu xing - the rocket stance

54 Taishan zhuan - the pole like the Taishan mountain

55 Xin yi ba - the heart and mind clench

56 Qi wei chuan dong - the bristling hedgehog strikes a hole

57 Suang to yue - to embrace the moon

58 Tie gan tui - the leg like an iron pole

59 Kao re guo - the cauldron heated on fire

60 Zuai ti deng - to throw down a stool by a foot

61 Lu da gun - the *** 's strike

62 Zhai she zu - the foot digging soil

63 Guang chuan tie bu shan - to put on an iron shirt on the naked body

64 Wu kong fan jin dou - Wu Kong fights against sinew dislocations

65 Tian bing xia fan - the Celestial Soldier descends the sky

66 Da murien - to strike a man of wood

67 Xie zi zou lu - the scorpion crawls along the road

68 Qian jintui - the leg weighing one thousand jins

69 Zha yan huan zuo deng - to change in an instant the stool

70 Luohan shen gong - Luohan's magic feat

71 Jiao long nu kong - the coiling dragon growls in wrath

72 Qi guan qi mao - the breath "chi" washes the hair on the skin

[rabadi]

Originally posted by Laviathan:

The 72 Arts mentioned by minutemanwayne are the true historical 72 arts of Shaolin (although other sources give different names). They are not the same as Jin Yong's fictional Shaolin arts. Actually, none of Jin Yong's names match with the real ones. Besides, Jin Yong never gave us a complete list of the 72 Arts in his novels.

For a (Chinese) list of Jin Yong's Shaolin 72 Arts, go to: http://www.taiwanstrategy.org/Spirit/show_form?sid=295

For Jin Yong's fictional Shaolin arts:

Vajra Taming Demon Circle, used by the Three Shaolin Elders against Zhang Wuji. (HSDS)

Vajra Taming Demon Divinity, used by Ah San against Zhang Wuji at Wudang. (HSDS)

Vajra Zen Lion's Roar, used by Abbot Fangzheng against the Six Peach Forest Fairies.

Diamond Invulnerable Body Art, used by Kongjian the Divine Monk to withstand Xie Xun's 13 strokes. (HSDS)

Diamond Finger, performed in both HSDS as DGSD.

Great Vajra Palm, used by Abbot Xuanci against Xiao Feng, unintentionally wounding Ah Zhu. (DGSD)

Great Vajra Fist, performed by Xuansheng. (DGSD)

Boddhidarma Sword, used by Fang Tianlao against He Zhudao. (HSDS)

Palm of Wisdom, performed by Jiumozhi at Shaolin. (DGSD)

Maha-Prajna (Great Wisdom) Irregular Finger, used by Jiumozhi against Xuzhu. (DGSD)

Losing Worry Finger, used by Jiumozhi against Xuzhu. (DGSD)

Formless Misfortune Finger, performed by Jiumozhi at Tianlong Temple. (DGSD)

Veda Scepter, used by Murong Bo against Xuanbei in Xinjie Temple, Dali. (DGSD)

Heaven & Earth in Sleaves, used by Xuannan against Xiao Feng at Juxian Mansion. (DGSD)

Pursueing Shadow Kick, used by Jiumozhi against Xuzhu at Shaolin Temple. (DGSD)

Monk's Robe Taming Demon Art, performed by Jiumozhi at Shaolin Temple. Specialty of Abbot Xuanci. (DGSD)

Taming Demon Scepter, learned by Xiao Yuanshan in secret. (DGSD)

Burning Wood Saber, specialty of Xuanku, teacher of Xiao Feng. (DGSD)

Picking Flower Finger, learned by Murong Bo in secret. Performed by JIumozhi at both Tianlong and Shaolin Temples. (DGSD)

Thousand Hand Buddha Palm, used by Abbot Fangzheng against Ren Woxing. (SPW)

[Du Gu seeking a win]

[QUOTE=Ian Liew]

The next two sects cover the xiaoyaopai legacy


Lingjiugong (Sacred Vulture Palace)
--------------

Neigong
Xiaoyao xinfa (basic skills for new girls), Bahuangliuheweiwoduzhuangong (TSTL's neigong), Xiaowushanggong (LQS's neigong), Beimingzhenqi (Wuyazi's neigong)


*
Ian, do you want to say that LQS's & WYZ's skills are also on the walls in the TSTL's cave? CC is unsure about this.