Originally Posted by
Candide
WYHL is a chump.
He stole a married woman, killed her husband (and failed), raised that man's child as his own, and bent over to his wife's wishes for 20 years. Talk about a willing cuckold! And sure, he luuuuuuuvs BXR. Can you get any more pathetic than that?
That, foxy, is why he gets no respect and Genghis is still respected despite being a bully. Genghis also happened to be the damn best bully while WYHL failed to be one. The only people he could bully in LOCH were two peasants with two pregnant wives - that's with the help of a big army - and even then he nearly got killed for the trouble.
Oh btw another reason: people followed Genghis mainly because they respected him as a leader, while WYHL had to buy his followers.
If possession of his woman is the bar for manliness and respect, then Genghis must be unworthy of respect. Historically, when Temujin was a minor tribal chief, his lands were raided and his wife carried away. He got support from Jamuka and Ong Khan, and they launched a counter raid. Their raid was a success, and Temujin got his wife back, but she was already pregnant. Temujin raised her child as his own, calling him Jochi ("Guest"), and treating him as his eldest son. There was a lot of tension between Jochi and Chagatai, who refused to acknowledge Jochi as the rightful heir to Genghis, and this came to a climax when Genghis called for a meeting to discuss his succession. Here's LOCH's treatment of that incident, in chapter 36.
Genghis Khan said, ?Jochi, you are my eldest son, tell me, whom should I
appoint?? Jochi?s heart skipped a beat. He was very capable, had
rendered the most service, besides, he was the eldest son. He had always
thought that when his father king died, naturally the position would
fall into his lap. Now that the Great Khan suddenly asked, he did not
know how to reply.
Genghis Khan?s second son, Chagatai, was like a raging fire. He did not
live harmoniously with his eldest brother. Hearing his father king
asking his brother, he opened his mouth, ?He wants Jochi to speak, what
order will he receive? How can we let this Mergid bastard rule over us??
Actually when Genghis Khan was young, his army was weak; as a result his
wife was captured by their enemy, the Mergids. After several years in
captivity, his wife was taken back, but by that time she had already
given birth to Jochi. Genghis Khan accepted this fact with an open mind;
he regarded Jochi as his own son.
Listening to his own brother?s insult Jochi could not hold his patience
any longer, he charged forward, grabbing Chagatai?s chest, shouted,
?Father King had never regarded me as an outsider, how dare you insulted
me? What skill do you have that I don?t? You are nothing more than an
irritable hot-tempered arrogant man. Let?s go out and have a duel; if I
lost to you in archery, I will rip my own thumb. If I lost to you in
martial arts, I will throw myself on the ground and never get up!?
Turning his head toward Genghis Khan he said, ?Father King, please give
your order.? Two brothers grabbed each other?s chest, ready to have a
duel right then and there.
The rest of the generals stepped forward to separate them; Bourchu
pulled Jochi?s hand, while Mukhali held Chagatai?s hand.
Genghis Khan was silent; he remembered his own disgrace in his youth
that he was not even able to defend his wife?s honor, which had caused
today?s dispute. The generals all blamed Chagatai for bringing up past
events and hurt their parents? hearts.
?Both of you, drop it!? finally Genghis Khan said, ?Jochi is my eldest
son; I will always love him no matter what. I forbid anyone to speak bad
about him.?
Chagatai let Jochi go, he said, ?Jochi is very capable, everybody knows
that. But in term of generosity and benevolence, he is inferior to the
third brother, Ogedei. I vote for Ogedei.?
?Jochi, what do you say?? Genghis Khan asked.
Jochi could see the unfavorable situation; he knew his hope to be the
Great Khan was shattered. He had always had good relationship with his
third brother; he knew the third brother was kindhearted, certainly
would not do him any harm in the future, therefore, he said, ?Very well,
I also support Ogedei.?